eBay managed payments - whos clued up?
Discussion
So its live next month after ages trying to work out what it is and why they are doing it.
The country and company checks mean the Chinese UK sellers wont ne able to say they are in the UK - thats a big win.
eBay says its cheaper - Simpler fees
You'll pay one final value fee for items you sell on eBay, and you won't have to worry about third-party payment processing fees. Your final value fees will be automatically deducted from your sales, and the balance of your sales paid out to your bank account. Most sellers can expect to see overall savings.*
Whaddya think?
The country and company checks mean the Chinese UK sellers wont ne able to say they are in the UK - thats a big win.
eBay says its cheaper - Simpler fees
You'll pay one final value fee for items you sell on eBay, and you won't have to worry about third-party payment processing fees. Your final value fees will be automatically deducted from your sales, and the balance of your sales paid out to your bank account. Most sellers can expect to see overall savings.*
- Savings based on annual total sales volumes, and comparisons of (a) prior eBay final value fees plus typical 3rd party payment provider fees, with (b) new eBay final value fees (without any 3rd party processing fees).
Whaddya think?
I did 2 yesterday, just need a bank doc scanned even a cheque will do so nowhere near as bad as amazon. However this introduces a lot more restrictions on what you can sell, nothing that concerns normal sellers though. You get PayPal fees back on cancelled orders now and hopefully the Chinglish sellers will be weeded out.
I’d love to see the back of the Chinese sellers on eBay but I doubt it will be this easy. They (the Chinese) will soon find a way around it.
eBay’s intention here is clearly to steal Paypal’s cheese. Given that they make a mess of virtually everything they do, it should be interesting times next month.
eBay’s intention here is clearly to steal Paypal’s cheese. Given that they make a mess of virtually everything they do, it should be interesting times next month.
Camelot1971 said:
Surely Chinese sellers use an off the shelf UK LTD company and as far as Ebay are concerned, they are a UK company? I expect I'm missing something obvious! (I'm not an Ebay seller, just curious!)
They need to set up a full Uk bank account with beneficial owner etc, not infallible by a long way but anything to make them jump another hoop. DSLiverpool said:
Camelot1971 said:
Surely Chinese sellers use an off the shelf UK LTD company and as far as Ebay are concerned, they are a UK company? I expect I'm missing something obvious! (I'm not an Ebay seller, just curious!)
They need to set up a full Uk bank account with beneficial owner etc, not infallible by a long way but anything to make them jump another hoop. About time they bring those rules in - there's too many right now
DSLiverpool said:
Camelot1971 said:
Surely Chinese sellers use an off the shelf UK LTD company and as far as Ebay are concerned, they are a UK company? I expect I'm missing something obvious! (I'm not an Ebay seller, just curious!)
They need to set up a full Uk bank account with beneficial owner etc, not infallible by a long way but anything to make them jump another hoop. Quote:
Sellers enrolled in managed payments are not allowed to list the following items:
Adult only items, including movies and video games
Auction services
Bullion
Coins & paper money
Gift cards & coupons
Lodging, timeshares, vacation packages, and car rentals
Memberships for campground and RV parks
Motor vehicles
Smoking cessation products including nicotine patches and gum
Tickets for travel, events, or experiences
Wine
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/selling-policie...
Sellers enrolled in managed payments are not allowed to list the following items:
Adult only items, including movies and video games
Auction services
Bullion
Coins & paper money
Gift cards & coupons
Lodging, timeshares, vacation packages, and car rentals
Memberships for campground and RV parks
Motor vehicles
Smoking cessation products including nicotine patches and gum
Tickets for travel, events, or experiences
Wine
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/selling-policie...
It is not cheaper if you are on PayPal’s lowest rate of 1.4% + 20p per transaction. The uplift in final value fees is 1.9% more than before so 0.5% worse off. Also they are charging 30p per transaction rather than 20p. Smaller sellers may be better off as they will not be on the lowest PayPal rate but large sellers are worse off.
Dogbash said:
It is not cheaper if you are on PayPal’s lowest rate of 1.4% + 20p per transaction. The uplift in final value fees is 1.9% more than before so 0.5% worse off. Also they are charging 30p per transaction rather than 20p. Smaller sellers may be better off as they will not be on the lowest PayPal rate but large sellers are worse off.
Good point and a strange decision (yet another) by eBay. I think this is the thin end of the wedge for a raft of poorly considered changes as they tinker with the decline. We will continue using PayPal for as long as possible as it represents a big uplift in fees for us but I expect we will be forced onto managed payments by year end. I suppose they are still cheaper than Amazon though.
I would hope this will help stop the Chinese sellers but I am sure they will find a way around the system. They usually do.
I would hope this will help stop the Chinese sellers but I am sure they will find a way around the system. They usually do.
As a buyer I find it frustrating when I purchase something that's listed as being in Wolverhampton or similar, 3-5 days delivery time, ordinary looking listing and a UK seller, then after two weeks of wondering where the hell it is it arrives in international packaging from China. If this helps matters I'll be pleased, though a shame if it makes things more difficult for genuine UK sellers.
Is eBay generally cheaper to sell on than Amazon? The fees on Amazon are punchy for my product category: 15% + 0.50p Closing Fee. So for example - customer pays £10.00 inc postage, Amazon take £2.00 (total fees). How much would eBay (and Paypal) take off you on a £10.00 sale?
I'm currently paying between £1500 to £2000 per week in Amazon fees alone based on approx 100+ sales/day.
I haven't had time to sit down and work out if it's worth me selling on eBay - mainly because I sell books and Amazon is a better marketplace for them. Also eBay seems a lot more of a faff than Amazon, unless I'm just used to Amazon! If and when I get the time to start the business on eBay I'm thinking of finding and paying someone for their experience to help me set up and learn the basics
I'm currently paying between £1500 to £2000 per week in Amazon fees alone based on approx 100+ sales/day.
I haven't had time to sit down and work out if it's worth me selling on eBay - mainly because I sell books and Amazon is a better marketplace for them. Also eBay seems a lot more of a faff than Amazon, unless I'm just used to Amazon! If and when I get the time to start the business on eBay I'm thinking of finding and paying someone for their experience to help me set up and learn the basics
Phooey said:
Is eBay generally cheaper to sell on than Amazon? The fees on Amazon are punchy for my product category: 15% + 0.50p Closing Fee. So for example - customer pays £10.00 inc postage, Amazon take £2.00 (total fees). How much would eBay (and Paypal) take off you on a £10.00 sale?
I'm currently paying between £1500 to £2000 per week in Amazon fees alone based on approx 100+ sales/day.
I haven't had time to sit down and work out if it's worth me selling on eBay - mainly because I sell books and Amazon is a better marketplace for them. Also eBay seems a lot more of a faff than Amazon, unless I'm just used to Amazon! If and when I get the time to start the business on eBay I'm thinking of finding and paying someone for their experience to help me set up and learn the basics
I find this calculator useful: https://www.ebayfeescalculator.com/uk-ebay-calcula...I'm currently paying between £1500 to £2000 per week in Amazon fees alone based on approx 100+ sales/day.
I haven't had time to sit down and work out if it's worth me selling on eBay - mainly because I sell books and Amazon is a better marketplace for them. Also eBay seems a lot more of a faff than Amazon, unless I'm just used to Amazon! If and when I get the time to start the business on eBay I'm thinking of finding and paying someone for their experience to help me set up and learn the basics
We pay £30/month for a eBay shop
Cost? Go to feescalc.com it’ll tell you - What I like about eBay is your selling page is yours, I have my “famous” toilet light example I use to prove this advantage. If your page message is verbose and likeable people will buy, a loo light is £4/5 I sold 1700 at £8.99 as a challenge about a year ago. You can charge more if you spend time on your presentation.
Your amazon listings can go in a central database to feed into eBay and your website - once set up it’s probably easier than your doing now. I know a brilliant integrator who can make it all talk together so if you decide you want more platforms then back end Barry is your man.
If anyone wants proof on the toilet lights just ask
in fact I found one in a draw popped it on the mothballed listing and it sold in 2 hours despite many many cheaper listings. I’ve just ordered 100 from China to start it up again.
Your amazon listings can go in a central database to feed into eBay and your website - once set up it’s probably easier than your doing now. I know a brilliant integrator who can make it all talk together so if you decide you want more platforms then back end Barry is your man.
If anyone wants proof on the toilet lights just ask
in fact I found one in a draw popped it on the mothballed listing and it sold in 2 hours despite many many cheaper listings. I’ve just ordered 100 from China to start it up again. 
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