48 in a 30 - chance of awareness course?
48 in a 30 - chance of awareness course?
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UTH

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12,269 posts

207 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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I’m guessing probably not?
Clean licence, only had 3 points for wrong way down one way street about 13 years ago.

djneils98

341 posts

179 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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that's well outside - sorry mate

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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The cut off tends to be 10% plus 9mph ie 42mph in a 30mph limit.

UTH

Original Poster:

12,269 posts

207 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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Damn, I feared as much
Oh well. My fault, can’t complain. Just so annoying making such a rookie error.

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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Take some comfort from the fact that it should be dealt with by fixed penalty.

A couple of mph faster and it could have been a much different story.

UTH

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12,269 posts

207 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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SS2. said:
Take some comfort from the fact that it should be dealt with by fixed penalty.

A couple of mph faster and it could have been a much different story.
Really? Like what, a ban?? I did some quick googling and saw that next step is a “summons” but naively I’m not entirely sure what that is!

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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UTH said:
SS2. said:
Take some comfort from the fact that it should be dealt with by fixed penalty.

A couple of mph faster and it could have been a much different story.
Really? Like what, a ban?? I did some quick googling and saw that next step is a “summons” but naively I’m not entirely sure what that is!
50mph would have been too fast for a fixed penalty and would have likely seen the matter proceeded before the magistrate(s)

On conviction, an earnings related fine of up to £1,000, court costs and victim surcharge plus 4-6 points or a short ban.

UTH

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12,269 posts

207 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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SS2. said:
UTH said:
SS2. said:
Take some comfort from the fact that it should be dealt with by fixed penalty.

A couple of mph faster and it could have been a much different story.
Really? Like what, a ban?? I did some quick googling and saw that next step is a “summons” but naively I’m not entirely sure what that is!
50mph would have been too fast for a fixed penalty and would have likely seen the matter proceeded before the magistrate(s)

On conviction, an earnings related fine of up to £1,000, court costs and surcharges plus 4-6 points or a short ban.
Bloody hell! Then you’re right, I’ll be happy to take what I’m given, had no idea how easily it can get much worse!

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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Should be 3 points & a fine of £100.

UTH

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Saturday 27th June 2020
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SS2. said:
Should be 3 points & a fine of £100.
Will 3 points make a massive difference on insurance?

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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UTH said:
SS2. said:
Should be 3 points & a fine of £100.
Will 3 points make a massive difference on insurance?
That'll be for your insurance company to decide at renewal time.

UTH

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12,269 posts

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Saturday 27th June 2020
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SS2. said:
UTH said:
SS2. said:
Should be 3 points & a fine of £100.
Will 3 points make a massive difference on insurance?
That'll be for your insurance company to decide at renewal time.
Wait and see time I guess
Thanks for the info smile

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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I assume this was a camera? If so a fixed penalty is most likely.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/speeding-...

UTH

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Saturday 27th June 2020
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gottans said:
I assume this was a camera? If so a fixed penalty is most likely.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/speeding-...
No, cops with a speed gun. Hidden by all the cars in the lane nearest them. Which makes it even more annoying because I really should have seen them.
They waved me in, showed me the gun etc

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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UTH said:
SS2. said:
Should be 3 points & a fine of £100.
Will 3 points make a massive difference on insurance?
For me it was £50 on the policy compared to not having any points, make sure you know the wording of your policy in relation to when to inform them and have the offence code e.g. SP30 to hand.

UTH

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gottans said:
For me it was £50 on the policy compared to not having any points, make sure you know the wording of your policy in relation to when to inform them and have the offence code e.g. SP30 to hand.
Well that’s good to hear, I was worried it might double it or worse!

R1Riders

36 posts

91 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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Wait and see. I got caught doing 92 in a 70 and was pulled over by traffic, shown the gun etc etc.

I was told I was being put forward to a summons.

I was crapping it for 6 months as they have 6 months to summon you, I heard nothing.

Speaking to a friend who’s in legal: he said 9/10 times they won’t process it.

Just wait and see. Can’t change it now fella!

UTH

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R1Riders said:
Wait and see. I got caught doing 92 in a 70 and was pulled over by traffic, shown the gun etc etc.

I was told I was being put forward to a summons.

I was crapping it for 6 months as they have 6 months to summon you, I heard nothing.

Speaking to a friend who’s in legal: he said 9/10 times they won’t process it.

Just wait and see. Can’t change it now fella!
I did wonder if there was a slim chance for some reason nothing may come of it, so for now it’s good to know that does occasionally happen.
But like you say, nothing I can do now. Just can’t seem to stop beating myself up about it.

4rephill

5,167 posts

207 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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UTH said:
R1Riders said:
Wait and see. I got caught doing 92 in a 70 and was pulled over by traffic, shown the gun etc etc.

I was told I was being put forward to a summons.

I was crapping it for 6 months as they have 6 months to summon you, I heard nothing.

Speaking to a friend who’s in legal: he said 9/10 times they won’t process it.

Just wait and see. Can’t change it now fella!
I did wonder if there was a slim chance for some reason nothing may come of it, so for now it’s good to know that does occasionally happen.
But like you say, nothing I can do now. Just can’t seem to stop beating myself up about it.
UTH: I wouldn't get your hopes up about being let off, and nothing coming from your stop - Driving at 48mph in a 30mph limit is far less likely to be overlooked by the Police than driving at 92mph on a motorway, because it's deemed to be a much higher risk to other road users/pedestrians.

In R1Riders case, he was apparently told he was going to be summonsed to court for doing 92mph in a 70mph limit on the M25 (noted by him in another thread). That makes little sense because the standard prosecution for driving at up to 94mph in a 70mph limit (for a road car), should be a FPN (£100 & 3 points) - 95mph+ is the speed where a court summons starts.

My suspicion is, the Police Officer had no intention of prosecuting R1Riders, and so fed him a load of bullscensoredt about being summonsed to court, to slow him down for a while.

4rephill

5,167 posts

207 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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4rephill said:
UTH said:
R1Riders said:
Wait and see. I got caught doing 92 in a 70 and was pulled over by traffic, shown the gun etc etc.

I was told I was being put forward to a summons.

I was crapping it for 6 months as they have 6 months to summon you, I heard nothing.

Speaking to a friend who’s in legal: he said 9/10 times they won’t process it.

Just wait and see. Can’t change it now fella!
I did wonder if there was a slim chance for some reason nothing may come of it, so for now it’s good to know that does occasionally happen.
But like you say, nothing I can do now. Just can’t seem to stop beating myself up about it.
UTH: I wouldn't get your hopes up about being let off, and nothing coming from your stop - Driving at 48mph in a 30mph limit is far less likely to be overlooked by the Police than driving at 92mph on a motorway, because it's deemed to be a much higher risk to other road users/pedestrians.

In R1Riders case, he was apparently told he was going to be summonsed to court for doing 92mph in a 70mph limit on the M25 (noted by him in another thread). That makes little sense because the standard prosecution for driving at up to 95mph in a 70mph limit (for a road car), should be a FPN (£100 & 3 points) - 95mph+ is the speed where a court summons starts.

My suspicion is, the Police Officer had no intention of prosecuting R1Riders, and so fed him a load of bullscensoredt about being summonsed to court, to slow him down for a while.