Rubbish. What on earth is going on?
Rubbish. What on earth is going on?
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PeteinSQ

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2,346 posts

234 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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"Hundreds of tonnes of additional rubbish, including mountains of single-use plastic, is being discarded by the public in English parks each day as park managers warn of their fears for “Super Saturday” this week.

Officials in Bournemouth said they collected 50 tonnes of litter left by revellers and beachgoers on the beach on one day alone last week, compared with five tonnes on an average June day."

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jun/2...

I know people are always decrying things as being worse than in the "good old days" but wtf is going on here? This genuinely feels like a brand new phenomenon.

I appreciate that at something like a massive music festival it can be really hard to tidy up after yourself (you're trapped in a massive crowd and there are no bins), but surely when you're at the park you can put your rubbish in a carrier bag and deposit it in a bin?

Also, why on earth is nitrous oxide the new craze? It's like the 1980s and glue sniffing. Surely the manufacturers of the canisters must be wondering why their sales forecasts have gone through the roof?

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

181 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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The perpetrators are usually at music festivals, but they are closed.

Earthdweller

18,119 posts

150 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Something to do with councils removing all the bins perhaps ?

Budflicker

3,799 posts

208 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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I had this exact conversation this afternoon, the state of the beaches was disgusting. Even if the bins are full or there are no bins, how hard is it to bag it up in a carrier bag and take it home with you?

It is disgusting and just one of the signs we are seeing of society starting to fray at the edges with common decency and law abiding seemingly now optional to the masses.

What with the rubbish on the beaches, block parties attacking the Police, people ignoring social distancing and trashing liverpool town centre because their Team won the title.....


You could go on and on at the moment and i fear as the summer rolls on and the unemployment numbers climb and the sun gets hotter there is worse to come.

TheJimi

27,246 posts

267 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Earthdweller said:
Something to do with councils removing all the bins perhaps ?
No, just something to do with fking selfish s being fking selfish s.

s.

Mabbs9

1,591 posts

242 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Earthdweller said:
Something to do with councils removing all the bins perhaps ?
I don't think the council have removed the bins in anyone's home.

Gareth79

8,773 posts

270 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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PeteinSQ said:
Also, why on earth is nitrous oxide the new craze? It's like the 1980s and glue sniffing. Surely the manufacturers of the canisters must be wondering why their sales forecasts have gone through the roof?
I think it's just people discovering something new which is not (in practice) dealt with by the police. It has been big in the US for years, I'm not sure why it has only just caught on here. There's a LOT just dumped on the roads around here, I was almost hit by one pinged by a car driving over it.

That said, other than littering it's mostly harmless unless you breathe it continuously or inhale a dozen boxes every day.


Budflicker

3,799 posts

208 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Earthdweller said:
Something to do with councils removing all the bins perhaps ?
Brilliant response......

"The bins are gone, oh well just chuck it on the floor then!"

idea

How about put it in a carrier bag and take it home with you and put it in the bin.



S100HP

13,607 posts

191 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Budflicker said:
I had this exact conversation this afternoon, the state of the beaches was disgusting. Even if the bins are full or there are no bins, how hard is it to bag it up in a carrier bag and take it home with you?

It is disgusting and just one of the signs we are seeing of society starting to fray at the edges with common decency and law abiding seemingly now optional to the masses.

What with the rubbish on the beaches, block parties attacking the Police, people ignoring social distancing and trashing liverpool town centre because their Team won the title.....


You could go on and on at the moment and i fear as the summer rolls on and the unemployment numbers climb and the sun gets hotter there is worse to come.
Nail. Head.

Had much the same discussion. There seems to be a rise in the feeling of entitlement, the "fk everyone else" attitude. Saw a video on Twitter the other day of the cycle lanes in Bournemouth littered with cars, just abandoned everywhere.

I fear it'll get worse too as the summer progresses.

InfoRetrieval

390 posts

172 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Mabbs9 said:
Earthdweller said:
Something to do with councils removing all the bins perhaps ?
I don't think the council have removed the bins in anyone's home.
Exactly. The lack of bins is the worst possible excuse for littering. Take it home FFS! rage

Dont Panic

1,389 posts

75 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Gareth79 said:
I think it's just people discovering something new which is not (in practice) dealt with by the police. It has been big in the US for years, I'm not sure why it has only just caught on here. There's a LOT just dumped on the roads around here, I was almost hit by one pinged by a car driving over it.

That said, other than littering it's mostly harmless unless you breathe it continuously or inhale a dozen boxes every day.


Hardly harmless.
https://www.talktofrank.com/drug/nitrous-oxide

vixen1700

28,065 posts

294 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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https://www.mylondon.news/news/south-london-news/t...

Saw this on the London news last night, shedloads of kids partying on Tooting Common and the mess they left behind was just awful.

Think we're getting to 'Generation Don't Give a fk'.

Pretty depressing really.

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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S100HP said:
Nail. Head.

Had much the same discussion. There seems to be a rise in the feeling of entitlement, the "fk everyone else" attitude. Saw a video on Twitter the other day of the cycle lanes in Bournemouth littered with cars, just abandoned everywhere.

I fear it'll get worse too as the summer progresses.
To be fair Bournemouth is a horrible place on any weekend, unbearable on a sunny one. Like London-on-sea. Parents with chinless children called George, going for a restful day by the seaside with millions of others. Oblivious to the fact we are an Island surrounded by the sea, they all choose to go to the same mile stretch of sand at Mudeford.

TheJimi

27,246 posts

267 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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vixen1700 said:
https://www.mylondon.news/news/south-london-news/t...

Saw this on the London news last night, shedloads of kids partying on Tooting Common and the mess they left behind was just awful.

Think we're getting to 'Generation Don't Give a fk'.

Pretty depressing really.
Littering is endemic.

It would take a national campaign on the level of the government's Covid-19 response, along with beefed up legislation to eradicate.

Short of that, nothing will change.


joestifff

875 posts

130 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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I also think it has something to do with the amount of people who randomly pick up litter they see. I am one of those people, don't do it for the facebook likes, do it as I do not want to live in a sthole, will pick up stuff when out walking, especially if we have the pram, then dump in bin on way or at home.

People maybe are scared of touching anything now, let alone other peoples litter.

I'll be honest, at the beginning of this pandemic I stopped picking litter up for weeks.

Robb F

4,614 posts

195 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Dont Panic said:
Gareth79 said:
I think it's just people discovering something new which is not (in practice) dealt with by the police. It has been big in the US for years, I'm not sure why it has only just caught on here. There's a LOT just dumped on the roads around here, I was almost hit by one pinged by a car driving over it.

That said, other than littering it's mostly harmless unless you breathe it continuously or inhale a dozen boxes every day.


Hardly harmless.
https://www.talktofrank.com/drug/nitrous-oxide
The link you provided appears to agree with Gareth?

Digga

46,704 posts

307 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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InfoRetrieval said:
Mabbs9 said:
Earthdweller said:
Something to do with councils removing all the bins perhaps ?
I don't think the council have removed the bins in anyone's home.
Exactly. The lack of bins is the worst possible excuse for littering. Take it home FFS! rage
Never been bins in the countryside. Never been ins at most beaches.

The 'code' is clear:

  • Leave only footprints
  • Take only pictures
Do anything else and you are a grade 1 waste of oxygen.

Sadly, the Great British countryside is playing host to the worst sort of scum. Clearly, once lockdown is eased and they can go back to picking peanuts out of poo, shopping, or whatever it was they used keep their minuscule intellects occupied with, all will be good.

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

234 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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Budflicker said:
Earthdweller said:
Something to do with councils removing all the bins perhaps ?
Brilliant response......

"The bins are gone, oh well just chuck it on the floor then!"

idea

How about put it in a carrier bag and take it home with you and put it in the bin.
Yeah this. Maybe even the same carrier bag you bought all the stuff there in the first place with.

Filthy mouthbreathing Chav scum.

Countdown

47,699 posts

220 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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vixen1700 said:
https://www.mylondon.news/news/south-london-news/t...

Saw this on the London news last night, shedloads of kids partying on Tooting Common and the mess they left behind was just awful.

Think we're getting to 'Generation Don't Give a fk'.

Pretty depressing really.
Kids behave the way they were taught to by their parents.

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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joestifff said:
I also think it has something to do with the amount of people who randomly pick up litter they see. I am one of those people, don't do it for the facebook likes, do it as I do not want to live in a sthole, will pick up stuff when out walking, especially if we have the pram, then dump in bin on way or at home.

People maybe are scared of touching anything now, let alone other peoples litter.

I'll be honest, at the beginning of this pandemic I stopped picking litter up for weeks.
I can't stand litter but I must admit I don't go round picking it up after other people unless it's blown our way or I've found it in our spot on the beach. So I'm annoyed but lazy.
I suspect this type of person would normally be in Spain, or on some Spanish or Greek island, stting on their doorsteps. The accounts I've heard of complainants being spat at too just seems odd!