Cordless right angled ratchets
Cordless right angled ratchets
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The Hofff

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255 posts

201 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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I've got an upcoming cltuch/flywheel job and was considering a cheapy cordless right angled ratchet.

I understand that they are not proper impact guns and are not designed to break the torqued bolts, but a hand tool to reach into awkward spaces to whizz off bolts that I can only get 1/8 of a turn on at once may just be worth the £34

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-8-12V-90-65Nm-Electri...

I'm aware of the Milwaukee (££), Makita (££) and Sealey CP1202KIT (£85) but with all the related spending for the task I'd prefer not to spend that much. The only one I would be prepared to spend on would be the Ryobi One+ item (already have a lot of that kit) buts its Australia only so no joy there.

Has anyone purchased and used one of the cheap eBay/Amazon items and care to comment on it?


anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Would a knuckle joint not work just as well at about £5?


rxe

6,700 posts

133 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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I've got a compressed air one, and in the right circumstances they are very useful.

The problem with most of them is no torque control - you can wreck a small fixing very easily.

rustednut

807 posts

77 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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I have 3/8 and 1/2 air versions, had them years.

Want to buy them? Still virtually as new.

No torque control, fiddly, clumsy et al. Give me a hand ratchet anytime, various option like flexy head, extending etc get me out of more awkward situations than the air ones ever do.

Admittedly battery powered may be less cumbersome, but you will still need to get it to the right place, at the right angle to hold it and operate it. Not as easy as it sounds in a confined area. And it is the initial release and final torque fastening that is the most important and hard part of the job. You won't be using it for that part.

Hammer67

6,454 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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The Hofff said:
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Useful if playing Scrabble, for decent tools? not so much.

Fonzey

2,232 posts

157 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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I've got a Ryobi one, the speed is variable with trigger pressure so you can do delicate fixings with it as long as you're careful.

Got it primarily for the undertray/diffuser bolts on my Exige - about 25 in total before you can even jack the car up - so a bit of a wrist saver! It's not too bulky, but still find there are very few 'tight spaces' I can get into with it.

The Hofff

Original Poster:

255 posts

201 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Which Ryobi model do you have?

sospan

2,755 posts

252 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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What torque are the bolts done up to? The cheap tool might not have enough oomph to initially free them. It could help the next stage of total removal easier though. How would you torque the bolts when refitting? Is there a specific torque that they need? That would be crucial thing to look at....have you a torque wrench that would fit? Do you have the extras such as knuckle joints?

Jakg

4,050 posts

198 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Would be interested to see if the cheapy you've linked to is any good.

Ever since watching this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czFN2PW873o - I feel like it could come in handy.

I was looking to get a "proper" one compatible with the battery system of the rest of my tools, but thats seriously cheap on it's own.

GT6k

966 posts

192 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Breaking the initial torque should be done with a breaker bar (clues in the name) then use the ratchet or powered tool of your choice to unscrew them.

The Hofff

Original Poster:

255 posts

201 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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I have knuckles/extensions and full sets in both 3/8" and 1/2" so the initial break out and remake torque would be completed by those - I am not expecting the cheap tool to perform that and would need to spend £100+ to buy one that does that for me.

Its the nuts or bolts that to much torque to undo by hand that you can only get 1/8 of a turn on at once from a hand ratchet (and the gun wont fit) is where this will come in. They do have a form on 'impact' via a weight in the head which is where the stated peak torque applied but to achieve that it has to be rotating (unlike a proper impact gun) so the break out torque will just the stall torque of the DC motor they use, which will be small.

The one from the video looks like the Milwaukee one which does have variable speed and an auto stop that prevents over-torquing, similar to the (AUS only) Ryobi R18RWO.

There are variable speed cheapo ones at £65 but if I'm going to spend that much I'd get the Sealey CP1202KIT for sure.

The Hofff

Original Poster:

255 posts

201 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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https://cpc.farnell.com/ryobi/rad1801m/angle-drill...

This is another option, its just a right angled though drill so only 15Nm

GT6k

966 posts

192 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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If you have a compressor then an air powered socket wrench is worth a look, although I see you can now get battery socket wrenches. I have used one very occasionally for cases where I only had side access.

Edited by GT6k on Wednesday 1st July 10:11

The Hofff

Original Poster:

255 posts

201 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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No air system in my garage, battery powered only I'm afraid.

5harp3y

1,966 posts

229 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Ryobi angle ratchet isn't available in the UK (i've asked) but you can get it off ebay via Australia

The Hofff

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255 posts

201 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Indeed - but its £100 + VAT + import duties + handing fees etc so will work out pretty pricey

tight fart

3,601 posts

303 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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The Snap on one is nice.