Chancellor's newly announced Stamp Duty Holiday
Chancellor's newly announced Stamp Duty Holiday
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London GT3

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1,070 posts

270 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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The Chancellor has today announced the stamp duty holiday for house purchases under £500,000. The full details haven't yet been published but I am interested to understand:

1. If I transfer my Buy To Lets from my own name into a company, will the company have to pay Stamp Duty under the new rules? I am thinking that each property is below £500,000 and I could buy them into the company under individual contracts with different completion dates so they weren't treated as a single transaction at a higher value.

2. Is the 3% surcharge that applies to companies and second homes still going to apply following this announcement. I expect it probably will.

I am mindful that I will trigger a CGT event by selling to a company but this might be the best time to bite the bullet and get it done.


Major Fallout

5,278 posts

260 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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I’m part way through buying so I’m also looking for more info, but I’m struggling to find any.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/stamp-duty-land-tax-te...

London GT3 - "Companies as well as individuals buying residential property worth less than £500,000 will also benefit from these changes, as will companies that buy residential property of any value where they meet the relief conditions from the corporate 15% SDLT charge."

"The 3% higher rate for purchases of additional dwellings applies on top of revised standard rates above for the period 8 July 2020 to 31 March 2021."


anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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I think we'll have to wait for the small print. The announcement certainly didn't give much detail.

Generally speaking, splitting a project into a series of smaller transactions doesn't work for tax avoidance, including Stamp Duty. The reporting that's required after property transactions makes this quite easy for HMRC to spot. So far as I am aware an SDLT1 (Stamp Duty) form has to be completed for every transaction whether or not any tax is payable. HMRC's big computer in the sky will see a series of similar transactions between the same parties and is likely to sound an alert. I'd suggest expert advice be obtained before moving a portfolio one piece at a time.

hast2

174 posts

241 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Does this apply to Scotland too?

xeny

5,470 posts

107 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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rockin said:
HMRC's big computer in the sky will see a series of similar transactions between the same parties and is likely to sound an alert. I'd suggest expert advice be obtained before moving a portfolio one piece at a time.
How many ply does the computer look? I'm wondering about a series of "triangular" trades, with a different third party each time.

AllyM

534 posts

205 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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hast2 said:
Does this apply to Scotland too?
No

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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xeny said:
How many ply does the computer look? I'm wondering about a series of "triangular" trades, with a different third party each time.
I don't know the answer to your question and recommend you seek professional paid-for and insured advice. It's not worth the risk of finding yourself on the wrong end of a difficult conversation with HMRC.

xeny

5,470 posts

107 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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rockin said:
I don't know the answer to your question and recommend you seek professional paid-for and insured advice. It's not worth the risk of finding yourself on the wrong end of a difficult conversation with HMRC.
laugh Intellectual curiosity only - I don't do property.

London GT3

Original Poster:

1,070 posts

270 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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JPJPJP said:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/stamp-duty-land-tax-te...

London GT3 - "Companies as well as individuals buying residential property worth less than £500,000 will also benefit from these changes, as will companies that buy residential property of any value where they meet the relief conditions from the corporate 15% SDLT charge."

"The 3% higher rate for purchases of additional dwellings applies on top of revised standard rates above for the period 8 July 2020 to 31 March 2021."
Thank you. Most helpful.

Skyedriver

23,397 posts

311 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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As usual, a bit of a kick in the nuts for anyone who bought a house recently though.

Rameez-Q

337 posts

98 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Skyedriver said:
As usual, a bit of a kick in the nuts for anyone who bought a house recently though.
Good and bad news for Scotland. The property market here is going crazy at the smaller side of the market.

fourstardan

6,524 posts

173 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Wont this just increase what people pay for properties now?

jayxx83

548 posts

225 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Pretty much. We have had a few clients tie up properties and now the vendors want to renegotiate the price up as they know purchasers are saving some cash on SDLT.

LooneyTunes

9,381 posts

187 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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It’s definitely driving some interest in the market at present with a property we were going to see today already in receipt of multiple offers, including at least one over asking price. Helps flow of cash but the overall economy still looks pretty gloomy. People who bought between the market reopening and now can’t be best pleased...