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citychap26

Original Poster:

1,307 posts

256 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Hi All,

I’m looking to open a bar/ restaurant soonish. Now I know that sadly Byron has gone out of business, however I loved their food, I was hoping someone could help me, I’m trying to find out where they got their beef burgers from?

Cheers

Sunil

Kermit power

29,622 posts

239 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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If you've got so much money to burn that you're thinking of starting a restaurant, now of all times, why don't you just put in a bid to Byron's administrators? I'm sure that info would come as part of the deal!

Luke.

11,908 posts

276 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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As a business analyst, do you not think it's a slightly dodgy time to open a new restaurant?

citychap26

Original Poster:

1,307 posts

256 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Hi All,

My business model is a single unit in an excellent location. Just want to know where they get their beef patties from.

Thanks

Sumil

21TonyK

13,108 posts

235 months

thebraketester

15,619 posts

164 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Make them in house. That’s what I would do anyway.

21TonyK

13,108 posts

235 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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thebraketester said:
Make them in house. That’s what I would do anyway.
Just a shame they are so far away from me frown

https://www.cutandgrindburgers.com/

thebraketester

15,619 posts

164 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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21TonyK said:
Just a shame they are so far away from me frown

https://www.cutandgrindburgers.com/
Never been, but we had their “heart and bone” burger at meatopia last year. Amazing.

citychap26

Original Poster:

1,307 posts

256 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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HiTony,

Excellent spot! Thank you so much.

Cheers

Sunil

21TonyK said:

Kudos

2,674 posts

200 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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21TonyK said:
thebraketester said:
Make them in house. That’s what I would do anyway.
Just a shame they are so far away from me frown

https://www.cutandgrindburgers.com/
Probably the best burgers I’ve had anywhere, fantastic

anonymous-user

80 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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I wouldn't have thought it that difficult to formulate your own. A bit of experimentation with different types of mince/cuts and make your own. Mix of ingredients. Cooking method.

For me, burgers are as much about texture as they are flavour; my favourites are just a really nice thing in your mouth. A 'meaty' texture with some resistance.

Also, pink burgers- nope. I like a good steak blue, but a burger mix does not have a nice texture when it's less than cooked through, not to mention the hygiene no-no of undercooked mince.

Anyway, just my two pence, others will of course think differently. Whatever you do, best of luck! Probably worth formulating a parallel vegan menu, too. What would be really cool would be two menus, where they are all the same meals with the same titles, just one meaty and one vegan. That way groups of friends including veggies don't feel like they're getting 1 or 2 choices to the meaties 25.

21TonyK

13,108 posts

235 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
I wouldn't have thought it that difficult to formulate your own. A bit of experimentation with different types of mince/cuts and make your own. Mix of ingredients. Cooking method.

For me, burgers are as much about texture as they are flavour; my favourites are just a really nice thing in your mouth. A 'meaty' texture with some resistance.

Also, pink burgers- nope. I like a good steak blue, but a burger mix does not have a nice texture when it's less than cooked through, not to mention the hygiene no-no of undercooked mince.

Anyway, just my two pence, others will of course think differently. Whatever you do, best of luck! Probably worth formulating a parallel vegan menu, too. What would be really cool would be two menus, where they are all the same meals with the same titles, just one meaty and one vegan. That way groups of friends including veggies don't feel like they're getting 1 or 2 choices to the meaties 25.
Completely agree on the idea of parallel options for meat and veggie/vegan and very easy to do IF you come up with your own vegan burger (which is not easy). Combine that with making your own meat burgers on site and you would have a good USP.

Wish you luck OP, food is one of the most difficult industries even with a good economy. Let alone where we are now and what we are heading for!


SpeckledJim

33,051 posts

279 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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On the upside, it's a great time to be buying restaurant and kitchen equipment, and hiring hospitality and catering staff.

On the other hand, that's because there aren't any customers.


21TonyK

13,108 posts

235 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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SpeckledJim said:
On the upside, it's a great time to be buying restaurant and kitchen equipment, and hiring hospitality and catering staff.

On the other hand, that's because there aren't any customers.
I'll let you know tomorrow.

Just about to order a new 6k+ oven and recruit more staff. But thats "education" wink

TBH not sure what to expect on the staffing!

Retail catering is going to be tough but I have booked at Steins for two nights, Will be across to Outlaws and Ainswoths in October. August will be Tonks and maybe squeeze in Caines before back to work.

I think the middle ground will really suffer. Generic chains with 40% of vouchrs will be ok, they have whitbread etc behind them. High end will adapt and charge accordingly. Its the poor sods in the middle I feel sorry for.

Edited by 21TonyK on Sunday 12th July 20:58

thebraketester

15,619 posts

164 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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I think we will be following each other around Tony. Got steins booked, Nathan outlaws revamped place and mariners I think. End of august. :-) Not been to No6, it was on the list last time, but ran out of time.

Sorry. OT.

Edited by thebraketester on Sunday 12th July 23:57

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

202 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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SpeckledJim said:
On the upside, it's a great time to be buying restaurant and kitchen equipment, and hiring hospitality and catering staff.

On the other hand, that's because there aren't any customers.
Perhaps walk in customers have waned but there is a LOT of food being sold as takeaway from restaurants who have started to use food delivery companies.


Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

93 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Luke. said:
As a business analyst, do you not think it's a slightly dodgy time to open a new restaurant?
others have noted there's a lot of prime retail space about to become available with landlords amenable to highly agreeable terms.

I LOVE a good burger but my pessimism would be more it's a bit late to get on the burger fad.

omniflow

3,669 posts

177 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Not Byron, but quite a few places (including MotherFlipper) get their burgers from HG Walter. They are very good.

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

202 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Teddy Lop said:
...my pessimism would be more it's a bit late to get on the burger fad.
Perhaps OP has found a location which is currently underserved with quality burgers - it seems opportunities remain, I know of one area in a city where the single gourmet burger outfit is consistently busy, with customers regularly being turned away at weekends prior to Corvid.

21TonyK

13,108 posts

235 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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A good burger that can adapt to trends and pricing I reckon will keep going. Thats not to say another revelation will appear.

Mexican, Indian? Possibly Korean street food?

Or burger variations of above?