Which face masks?
Discussion
Hi,
I'm actually not in the UK (Scandinavia presently) but most things I buy online from the UK or Germany, mainly Amazon et al.
I need to buy some "quality" face masks for my wife and some co-workers here who are all public-facing in confined spaces, there is no real local advice that I can fathom on this, and, whenever I Google it in the UK it seems the information on all Covid19 matters is under heavy censorship/scrutiny from both Google and it seems that on Amazon they are policing things hard (I do know why) but I then feel like I don't know what to look for and just see DIY masks that to me won't cut the mustard. Ideally I'm looking at protection as well as mitigating spread, so not sure what masks are meant for which and the search results on this subject are sketchy at best!
Any pointers on what I need to be looking for and whether anyone will ship inside the EU?
Thanks in advance!
I'm actually not in the UK (Scandinavia presently) but most things I buy online from the UK or Germany, mainly Amazon et al.
I need to buy some "quality" face masks for my wife and some co-workers here who are all public-facing in confined spaces, there is no real local advice that I can fathom on this, and, whenever I Google it in the UK it seems the information on all Covid19 matters is under heavy censorship/scrutiny from both Google and it seems that on Amazon they are policing things hard (I do know why) but I then feel like I don't know what to look for and just see DIY masks that to me won't cut the mustard. Ideally I'm looking at protection as well as mitigating spread, so not sure what masks are meant for which and the search results on this subject are sketchy at best!
Any pointers on what I need to be looking for and whether anyone will ship inside the EU?
Thanks in advance!
The masks available under £5 in shops are more effective at stopping splatter and larger molecules in breath. So are fine for stopping the spread of what the wearer is putting out.
This is why this style is used by surgeons. They only need to stop what they're putting out.
As said above, masks that protect the wearer against a virus are alot more expensive.
From what I've read Id recommend a high quality reusable mask with changeable 3 ply (atleast) filtering, as well a visor. A full face visor will probably help more. But I'm sure someone else had read other data and says something different. There's never been so many scientific papers going out at once, and sadly they don't agree much...
This is why this style is used by surgeons. They only need to stop what they're putting out.
As said above, masks that protect the wearer against a virus are alot more expensive.
From what I've read Id recommend a high quality reusable mask with changeable 3 ply (atleast) filtering, as well a visor. A full face visor will probably help more. But I'm sure someone else had read other data and says something different. There's never been so many scientific papers going out at once, and sadly they don't agree much...
I picked up one of these ready for the tube commute: https://www.breathe-happy.com/commuter/
A face-covering is recommended for those in public areas who have to spend times closer than 2m to others. These mainly reduce the risk to others, rather than the wearer, but this is obviously a very good thing in the grand scheme of things.
In clinical settings FRSM (Fluid resistant surgical masks) are recommended for PPE, with gloves, eye protection, and disposable aprons.
If AGPs (aerosol generating procedures such as drilling teeth, venting patients) are taking place the PPE is stepped up to gowns and FFP3 masks.
To protect staff the best thing is to ensure the public wear face-coverings (staff wearing similar would be reasonable) and maintain distancing.
Screens sound sensible where practical, enhanced handwashing too.
In clinical settings FRSM (Fluid resistant surgical masks) are recommended for PPE, with gloves, eye protection, and disposable aprons.
If AGPs (aerosol generating procedures such as drilling teeth, venting patients) are taking place the PPE is stepped up to gowns and FFP3 masks.
To protect staff the best thing is to ensure the public wear face-coverings (staff wearing similar would be reasonable) and maintain distancing.
Screens sound sensible where practical, enhanced handwashing too.
The Virustatic Shield is great to throw in your pocket or have around your neck, to use if needed. It's too thin and has gaps either side of your nose to be effective.
https://www.virustaticshield.com/
You really need an FFP2 or 3 and this one looks very good.
https://livinguard.com/masks/
Both are reusable many times.
https://www.virustaticshield.com/
You really need an FFP2 or 3 and this one looks very good.
https://livinguard.com/masks/
Both are reusable many times.
we use p2 for normal d2d patient contact. on arrest i step up to p3 and a face visor due to aerosol generated nasties from cpr caused by thoracic pressure build up.
getting tested for correct mask type is an issue for some on the p3.
as a guide to the naysayer further up the thread; early days our ppe issue was terrible. being older and not happy with how things were going, i purchased my own p3 kit out of screw fix. my cremates kept falling ill and i didn't. mask supplies and correct P rating then became easier to come by and the volume of us becoming very ill dramatically dropped. it's a no-brainer unfortunately 3 months behind the curve.
getting tested for correct mask type is an issue for some on the p3.
as a guide to the naysayer further up the thread; early days our ppe issue was terrible. being older and not happy with how things were going, i purchased my own p3 kit out of screw fix. my cremates kept falling ill and i didn't. mask supplies and correct P rating then became easier to come by and the volume of us becoming very ill dramatically dropped. it's a no-brainer unfortunately 3 months behind the curve.
LeadFarmer said:
I'd like to think that supermarkets will be either giving disposable masks free of charge to customers as they enter, or have then available to purchase on entry. Anyone who hasn't got one by the time any rules come into force won't be able to go into a shop to buy one.
You've misread the rules.SlimJim16v said:
The Virustatic Shield is great to throw in your pocket or have around your neck, to use if needed. It's too thin and has gaps either side of your nose to be effective.
https://www.virustaticshield.com/
You really need an FFP2 or 3 and this one looks very good.
https://livinguard.com/masks/
Both are reusable many times.
As discussed on another thread though, make sure you get one without a valve, otherwise it won't really help you to stop spreading whatever you might have.https://www.virustaticshield.com/
You really need an FFP2 or 3 and this one looks very good.
https://livinguard.com/masks/
Both are reusable many times.
LeadFarmer said:
I'd like to think that supermarkets will be either giving disposable masks free of charge to customers as they enter, or have then available to purchase on entry. Anyone who hasn't got one by the time any rules come into force won't be able to go into a shop to buy one.
Its not up to the supermarkets or workers to enforce the rules, likely to stop violent confrontations.The person will get a £100 fine if they a caught by the Police though.
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