Could you keep up with safety car?
Could you keep up with safety car?
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Sheetmaself

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6,044 posts

219 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Okay so you’re plonked into a modern F1 car, could you keep up with the safety car in it?

Obviously we could all of beat Lewis in our prime given the right chances but apart from that what do you think?

DanielSan

19,743 posts

188 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Not a chance in an F1 car, it'd take some serious brain adjustment to get one to go fast enough to keep some heat in the tyres nevermind having to manage one with cold tyres and even less grip. I'd have more chance if I was in another safety car, and having seen how hard the safety car gets driven I wouldn't manage that either.

Shaw Tarse

31,825 posts

224 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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I might be imagining it, but was there a time when the pro drivers couldn't keep up, think it was in the wet?

patmahe

5,899 posts

225 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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If everything was already warmed up then probably, but if you gave me cold brakes, cold tyres, asked me to move away from a standstill, chances are I'd stall it or spin at the first corner I got to smile that or I'd actually hit the safety car biggrin and I'd guess that it'd be the same for 97% of people out there.

The type of people who reckon they could handle an F1 car no problem are usually the type of people who have very little understanding of how an F1 car actually works or have never driven a car on a race track.

Edited by patmahe on Wednesday 15th July 14:49

ellroy

7,713 posts

246 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Not a hope in hell.

They’re mostly driven by pro GT drivers and the like, excluding the complexity of an F1 car, most wouldn’t keep up in anything they understood.

Sheetmaself

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6,044 posts

219 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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The rules are its mid race so everything is watm the car is still moving and already behind the safety car. You’ve just blinked and now your in the seat. Obviously try to ignore the fact of surprise at the situation.

Oh and its bone dry.

See for me it’s a difficult one, I’m not saying it would be easy but you would be easily within the capability of the car could you get your head around it quick enough to keep everything warm.

Im still not convinced i could which shows the level of skill required.

Cyder

7,176 posts

241 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Depends on the track I imagine. Silverstone would be an awful lot easier than Monaco I imagine!

thegreenhell

21,406 posts

240 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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I would overtake the saftey car, but only for about three corners before my head rolled off my shoulders from the unaccustomed G force.

TheDeuce

30,808 posts

87 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Not in an F1 car, not for long at least - when any of us would inevitably screw up somehow.

Probably anyone with some track experience could manage it with no major drama in any number of track cars, Radical, Atom etc.. The big old Merc safety car is itself very limited in terms of pace as it's a road car.

This is how a none F1 driver copes with a cold tyres and brakes, along with their inability to warm it up due to... fear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGUZJVY-sHo

6:30 onward to see him in the F1 car on the track.


CustardOnChips

1,936 posts

83 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Nope. Neither I suspect would 99.9% of us.

I had a go in a F1 simulator a few years ago. Didn't come close to making it round the first corner.

Zetec-S

6,589 posts

114 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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I suspect I'd have more chance keeping up with the safety car in my Focus ST than I would in an F1 car biglaugh

Didn't Richard Hammond drive an F1 car on an old episode of Top Gear? Took him ages to get going even somewhat properly, the biggest challenge was they aren't really designed to go slowly...

belleair302

6,995 posts

228 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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In a F3 car with eight weeks of specific fitness training yes I think a number of people could hang onto its tail. In a F1 car no, the downforce or lack of at lower speeds, the cool brakes and tyre issues would make it vey tricky.

KevinCamaroSS

13,631 posts

301 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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No chance. I would not even want to try an F1 car, I am leagues away from being able to drive one. I prefer sports cars to single-seaters, but also recognise I would not be able to drive a Le Mans car properly. So, best attempt to keep up with the safety car would be in C7R or similar smile

EDLT

15,421 posts

227 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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I'm not sure driving an F1 car is that impossibly difficult, there are a few videos of a few youtubers managing it without crashing.

Paul_M3

2,514 posts

206 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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I'm going to go against the grain here and say that if you were an experienced track day driver used to high performance cars you'd have a reasonable chance of keeping up with the safety car.

The key thing would obviously be very progressive throttle and brake inputs, but then you wouldn't need to get anywhere near the limit to keep up with a road car only accelerating and braking at 1g.

In response to the Richard Hammond video, there's a more serious one of Steve Sutcliffe having a go. Ok, he was a ex-racing driver, but nothing particularly fast and certainly not single seaters with wings.

He managed to get within half a second of the test driver at the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwg6iaAX99c

Mr_Yogi

3,288 posts

276 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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TheDeuce said:
Not in an F1 car, not for long at least - when any of us would inevitably screw up somehow.

Probably anyone with some track experience could manage it with no major drama in any number of track cars, Radical, Atom etc.. The big old Merc safety car is itself very limited in terms of pace as it's a road car.

This is how a none F1 driver copes with a cold tyres and brakes, along with their inability to warm it up due to... fear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGUZJVY-sHo

6:30 onward to see him in the F1 car on the track.
That's top gear BS though, there is a video on YouTube from a racing coach which debunks much of that, explaining that many of the spins were done on purpose and probably by a pro driver, not Hammond.

Not saying I could keep up with the pace car though. Although at pace car speeds with warm tyres surely there would be enough mechanical grip from the F1 car?

HustleRussell

26,018 posts

181 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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It's probably quite hard to drive at SC speeds- The SC probably laps as quick as anything I've raced but it's a pedestrian speed compared to the capability of an F1 car. I suspect I could do it until I couldn't. Get the brakes or throttle wrong, chuck it off or spin.

thegreenhell

21,406 posts

240 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Mr_Yogi said:
That's top gear BS though, there is a video on YouTube from a racing coach which debunks much of that, explaining that many of the spins were done on purpose and probably by a pro driver, not Hammond.

Not saying I could keep up with the pace car though. Although at pace car speeds with warm tyres surely there would be enough mechanical grip from the F1 car?
Yes, I was going to post the same. It's here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os0PwQCyw4s

Kraken

1,710 posts

221 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Just about anything in life is difficult if you haven't done it before. Just because an F1 driver can keep up with the SC and someone who has never driven one before probably couldn't doesn't mean that the F1 driver has insane skills that no other human possesses.

dunc_sx

1,677 posts

218 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Yes in my car but not in the F1 unless it was pre-warmed, then only until the temps dropped off. It's just too big a step from the usual stuff.

Dunc.