Jag V8 in a Chimaera - lost thread
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If my memory serves me correctly (which could be of some discrepancy) I swear blind there was a thread in which someone put a 4.2 Jag V8 in a Chimaera (could have been a Griff perhaps) but f****d if I can find it......
Can someone with better memory and perhaps bookmarking skills put me on the right track? I seem to particularly recall engine wouldn't start and the chap had to plug the dash binnacle/gauges from the Jag in to make it run.
Cheers
Looks like someone put a Jag V6 (V8 2 cyls blanked off) into a 3000 M
http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,35192
http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,35192
TwinKam said:
Same engine as Magpies used, the all alloy Ford V6 (Mondeo ST) also used by Mazdas and Jaguar, some versions with VVT. From a Porsche design it is said. So take your pick whose it is!
Am I right in thinking the Jag XK8 engine is an all British designed and built engine, I was at a Sprint meeting once and met a very friendly guy, as I was sprinting my Jag 
serious lol Just for a laugh. Anyway he happened to mention he was the chap who designed the oil lubrication system for the 1990’s XK8 and super charged XJR engines. I always assumed this engine is an all Brit design? Does anyone know for sure.
Thanks
TwinKam said:
Ford again I'm afraid! Used in the DB7 too. That's what happens when a giant Corp owns you, it enables new models but there has to be an element of parts sharing to make it viable. At least it didn't also wind up in a Mazda this time (AFAIK).
How very disappointing 
At least it never went in a Mazda
Classic Chim said:
TwinKam said:
Ford again I'm afraid! Used in the DB7 too. That's what happens when a giant Corp owns you, it enables new models but there has to be an element of parts sharing to make it viable. At least it didn't also wind up in a Mazda this time (AFAIK).
How very disappointing At least it never went in a Mazda
baconsarney said:
I see what you did there Anthony 
Sorry Richard, it has been a long week with a troublesome client.Loads of other work on, so cannot complain, even if it does mean I will working all weekend.
But I am collecting my TVR on Monday from you know who, so
How's life treating you?
TwinKam said:
Ford again I'm afraid! Used in the DB7 too. That's what happens when a giant Corp owns you, it enables new models but there has to be an element of parts sharing to make it viable. At least it didn't also wind up in a Mazda this time (AFAIK).
Jag C8 is not Ford designen. For did use a 3.9 variant of it. But as far as I know it is Jaguar in origin. I also don’t recall of any V8 DB7. Aj16 straight 6 and V12 yes. AJV8, no.
300bhp/ton said:
TwinKam said:
Ford again I'm afraid! Used in the DB7 too. That's what happens when a giant Corp owns you, it enables new models but there has to be an element of parts sharing to make it viable. At least it didn't also wind up in a Mazda this time (AFAIK).
Jag C8 is not Ford designen. For did use a 3.9 variant of it. But as far as I know it is Jaguar in origin. I also don’t recall of any V8 DB7. Aj16 straight 6 and V12 yes. AJV8, no.
And where does that say anything about a V8 DB7?
Lincoln LS and T-Bird used a 3.9 variant of the AJV8. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t a Jag engine. Ford V8 at the time was the 4.6/5.4 modular V8. Which carries on today as to Coyote engine as found in the Mustang and others. And shares not a single component or design feature with the AJV8.
Lincoln LS and T-Bird used a 3.9 variant of the AJV8. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t a Jag engine. Ford V8 at the time was the 4.6/5.4 modular V8. Which carries on today as to Coyote engine as found in the Mustang and others. And shares not a single component or design feature with the AJV8.
I don’t know why it seems some people are hung up over Ford owned companies and the products that were/are produced?
Aston just mod what they are allowed too, so when Ford owned Jag and Aston, Aston played with what was available within the combined companies. Even way back with DB5’s the engine was a rip off of a Jaguar straight six together with Morris oxford front suspension amongst things. Bit of a TVR of its day but hoojly expensive now.
Aston just mod what they are allowed too, so when Ford owned Jag and Aston, Aston played with what was available within the combined companies. Even way back with DB5’s the engine was a rip off of a Jaguar straight six together with Morris oxford front suspension amongst things. Bit of a TVR of its day but hoojly expensive now.
Has anyone used a Ford 302 engine is a TVR, or anything else for that matter?
I have only seen it used once, my local garage proprietor ( and retired drag racer) had one in his Humber Hawk.
He also had the supercharger for it, but had never got around to fitting it.
Needless to say it looked rather small and silly in the Humber engine bay.
But the car had a rather nice turn of speed, as did his RV8 Morris Minor
I have only seen it used once, my local garage proprietor ( and retired drag racer) had one in his Humber Hawk.
He also had the supercharger for it, but had never got around to fitting it.
Needless to say it looked rather small and silly in the Humber engine bay.
But the car had a rather nice turn of speed, as did his RV8 Morris Minor
QBee said:
Has anyone used a Ford 302 engine is a TVR, or anything else for that matter?
I have only seen it used once, my local garage proprietor ( and retired drag racer) had one in his Humber Hawk.
He also had the supercharger for it, but had never got around to fitting it.
Needless to say it looked rather small and silly in the Humber engine bay.
But the car had a rather nice turn of speed, as did his RV8 Morris Minor
I had one in my cobra replica, made an easy 300 Bhp with a mild cam etc, it had a lot more to give to be honest but I didn’t know enough about yank motors at the time and made a few wrong choices on intake and cam specs.I have only seen it used once, my local garage proprietor ( and retired drag racer) had one in his Humber Hawk.
He also had the supercharger for it, but had never got around to fitting it.
Needless to say it looked rather small and silly in the Humber engine bay.
But the car had a rather nice turn of speed, as did his RV8 Morris Minor
Parts are easy to get and not too expensive although import taxes etc spoil that now.
I’d really love to live in America for the Engines and parts they have at their disposal, seems a cooking engine is only a junkyard away!
QBee said:
Sorry Richard, it has been a long week with a troublesome client.
Loads of other work on, so cannot complain, even if it does mean I will working all weekend.
But I am collecting my TVR on Monday from you know who, so
How's life treating you?
All good here thanks Anthony Loads of other work on, so cannot complain, even if it does mean I will working all weekend.
But I am collecting my TVR on Monday from you know who, so
How's life treating you?
Beastie is also with you know who at the moment.... Hope you're well...
QBee said:
Has anyone used a Ford 302 engine is a TVR, or anything else for that matter?
I have only seen it used once, my local garage proprietor ( and retired drag racer) had one in his Humber Hawk.
He also had the supercharger for it, but had never got around to fitting it.
Needless to say it looked rather small and silly in the Humber engine bay.
But the car had a rather nice turn of speed, as did his RV8 Morris Minor
The Ford 302 is an odd one. Quite compact, but heavy with an iron block. And anywhere from 134hp thru to 225hp in stock form. They were never a HP monster.I have only seen it used once, my local garage proprietor ( and retired drag racer) had one in his Humber Hawk.
He also had the supercharger for it, but had never got around to fitting it.
Needless to say it looked rather small and silly in the Humber engine bay.
But the car had a rather nice turn of speed, as did his RV8 Morris Minor
Obviously some mods can improve them a great deal and 300-350hp is not uncommon or especially difficult from them. But in the UK you'd likely spend more on getting this or very similar to a good RV8 with approx 280-320hp.
There are alloy blocks from Dart and maybe others, but you are talking huge money by this time. I'd say the best place for the Ford small blocks are in Mustangs or period cars that ran them. And especially in the UK you could get a Chevy LS motor for the same (or maybe even less money), which will out perform the Ford on every level.
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