Grechniq c2 or gyeon wetcoat?
Grechniq c2 or gyeon wetcoat?
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chan61922

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535 posts

83 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Afternoon chaps, so I had my black car stage 2 machine polished and protected with gtechniq csl and gtechniq evo x4. Car looks absolutely stunning almost like she’s just rolled out the showroom. My question is going forwards what do I need in my arsenal to maintain protection and maintain gloss shine etc whilst keeping the muck off. Do I go wax free shampoo? Any recommendations? Do I stick with gtechniq and go with the c2 product as a top up measure or do I opt for something like gyeon wet coat that doesn’t require me to work product in and just apply onto wet car. Any help appreciated many thanks

swisstoni

21,633 posts

300 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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I use C2. Very easy to use. I mostly use it after washing and before drying. Lasts pretty well.

If wetcoat is the one you wash off, I’ve had an iffy result in the past where I think I didn’t thoroughly rinse it off. Left a textured surface in places which needed some removing. Very likely user error but it’s possible.

MOBB

4,245 posts

148 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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I like wet coat but as above if you don’t rinse it thoroughly and quickly it can spot ime

chan61922

Original Poster:

535 posts

83 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Thanks for input, yeah I don’t Think full coverage is possible with wet coat and any other spray and rinse products, it does get pretty good reviews though. I do like the idea of applying to a wet body I wasn’t aware c2 goes on wet car? How often are you applying or is it purely down to how much you use the car and how mucky it is? Any recommendation for a good shampoo, only have Wax shampoos in my arsenal, car wasn’t in great nick paint wise before I had the work done so literally been using quick detailers

Belle427

11,123 posts

254 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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I think staying with something from gtechniq would be beneficial.
I find wet coat good but it does need the car drying properly afterwards to avoid spotting.

Summit_Detailing

2,325 posts

214 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Gtechniq Gwash, Dooka Wash or Gyeon Q2Bathe for free rinsing shampoo recommendations.

As you've got Gtechniq on the car I'd go with C2v3 over Wetcoat, the latter makes more sense on an unprotected car (imo).

You can use C2 at the drying stage, I spritz the drying towel with it and dry the car as normal. Alternatively you can use it after drying - spritz onto a microfibre cloth, gently wipe over a panel then use another microfibre to wipe away any residue.
The latter method should take you comfortably less than 5 minutes to do the whole car - just as a guide.

Cheers,

Chris

chan61922

Original Poster:

535 posts

83 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Mans thanks guys, I’ll get some c2 ordered and give it a whirl. I’ll order some wax free shampoo up too, would cleanyourcar stock these shampoos, I know they do c2. How often should I be treating car with c2, every wash? More to the point how often should I be washing, every month or 2? Or whenever required?

Shanksy87

389 posts

143 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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I applied Wetcoat when the paint was still warm and that caused spotting issues, water performance was still decent though. Need to man up and give it a fair crack at the whip on a dull day but I have fallen back into using Beadmaker, a spray polymer sealant that leaves a super smooth and glossy finish. I tend to apply this after each wash on but was hoping to use Wetcoat in the winter for my daily as it so quick to use.

chan61922

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535 posts

83 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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Would it be worth using panel wipe before applying the c2? Or just going straight in with it? Want to get this right, so excuse the silly questions.

Method of action will be

Iron fallout on wheels and exhaust
Rinse off

Bilt hamber autowash, dwell
Rinse off

2 bucket wash
Rinse off

Must wet car with c2 And pat down dry with microfibre

Or dry the car with blower dryer and thick drying towel then spray a panel with c2 along with a microfibre and apply and buff off


Jobs a goodun right?



chan61922

Original Poster:

535 posts

83 months

Sunday 19th July 2020
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I do hear good things about beadmaker how long does it typically last though, I think as suggested it might be best to stick with gtechniq as that’s what’s already applied to the car, I’ve lost count how many unopened bits I have in the garage for the car, sigh. I am literally dreading the first wash though, cars never looked so good

Summit_Detailing

2,325 posts

214 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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chan61922 said:
Would it be worth using panel wipe before applying the c2? Or just going straight in with it? Want to get this right, so excuse the silly questions.

Method of action will be

Iron fallout on wheels and exhaust
Rinse off

Bilt hamber autowash, dwell
Rinse off

2 bucket wash
Rinse off

Must wet car with c2 And pat down dry with microfibre

Or dry the car with blower dryer and thick drying towel then spray a panel with c2 along with a microfibre and apply and buff off


Jobs a goodun right?
>You can use C2 as often as you like.

>I wash my car every week and I'll use C2 probably every couple of months - not given it any thought as to frequency to be honest but it is a purely optional step.

>No need to use panel wipe at any point.

>Using fallout remover on the wheels every wash is a bit excessive, maybe needed if you are doing 5k miles a month and it just gets washed once in that time - an exception to the rule however! Just judge it by what you see, if after 2 months you see a build up of stubborn deposits on the wheels give them a light spray with some fallout remover and agitate with brush.

> My routine would be - pressure rinse body and wheels, wash with autowash, rinse, dry with drying towel, wash wheels, rinse wheels, put the kettle on.
Try both C2 application methods and see which works best for you.

> Don't over think it!...the coatings in theory make the process easier, more efficient and to some actually enjoyable!

Cheers,

Chris

chan61922

Original Poster:

535 posts

83 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Many thanks mate appreciate it, yeah I do get abit carried away with the old fall out remover lol Would bilt hamber wheels product be a good shout? Is the csl diluted at all or do I just apply neat. I’ve watched a few YouTube clips on it and the bottle looks very small. I’m usually trigger happy with products as I always think more is better. Would c2 be worth doing on wheels and windows too as they were also treated in a different gtechniq product. I don’t do huge amount of miles as I have another car which does most my donkey work, but would every 6-8 be okay for treating With c2? What about washes inbetween should the car need it in winter etc, can I just wash and dry and be done with it or should c2 be applied after every wash? Does the product need any curing time or to be done in doors at all and finally should I go heavy on first application and try lay down a good foundation on it? Sorry for the 101 questions, many thanks

swisstoni

21,633 posts

300 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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The Detailing World forum is where the Op needs to head to if he wants to deep-dive into this stuff.

I was right into it for a while but now I just stick to a few tried and trusted products and try to keep it from getting nuts.

I was just as happy when I had a bucket, a sponge and a chammy and swirls were made by Cadburys.

chan61922

Original Poster:

535 posts

83 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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I’m guilty of going overkill with products etc too the amount of unopened stuff I have in my arsenal is silly. Want to get this right now just spent £700 quid on sorting it

Summit_Detailing

2,325 posts

214 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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chan61922 said:
Many thanks mate appreciate it, yeah I do get abit carried away with the old fall out remover lol Would bilt hamber wheels product be a good shout? Is the csl diluted at all or do I just apply neat. I’ve watched a few YouTube clips on it and the bottle looks very small. I’m usually trigger happy with products as I always think more is better. Would c2 be worth doing on wheels and windows too as they were also treated in a different gtechniq product. I don’t do huge amount of miles as I have another car which does most my donkey work, but would every 6-8 be okay for treating With c2? What about washes inbetween should the car need it in winter etc, can I just wash and dry and be done with it or should c2 be applied after every wash? Does the product need any curing time or to be done in doors at all and finally should I go heavy on first application and try lay down a good foundation on it? Sorry for the 101 questions, many thanks
> C2 apply neat.
> Available in different sizes from 250ml - 5L.
> Wouldn't waste the product on wheels and windows if they are already coated.
> Just wash and dry the car and carry on with life, no need to use C2 every wash.
> No it's wipe on / wipe off, as long as your aren't using it in direct sunlight or on a black car which has baked in the sun for a day.
> As an example of product usage, 1 spray on a microfibre will be enough to do a front wing.
> You've got very durable, long term protection already applied so that is the foundation.

> Slightly surprised that the company who did the work on your car didn't leave you with this informationrolleyes

Cheers.

V1nce Fox

5,508 posts

89 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Love wetcoat, seems to be getting harder to get hold of recently tho?

As others have said, it can bind and spot if not careful. I tend to only use it if it's a very cool day and preferably if it's going to continue to rain after I've applied it. Less is more in terms of quantity and where possible I always jetwash to agitate and remove it.

Warby80

330 posts

113 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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If you want to stick with Gtechniq products but would like the ease of a spray and rinse coating then they have a new product called Easy Coat that would be worth a look.

Stedman

7,368 posts

213 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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If you're using WC in the future you could consider this method I saw John from Forensic Detailing using;

Soak clean MF. ring out some, spray WC onto MF then cover panel using MF. Spray off.

I've had much better results since adopting the above

ajblogs

8 posts

67 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Try polish angel. Expensive, but from what I hear, awesome!

Chubbyross

4,815 posts

106 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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There’s a new Garage Therapy product starting to cause ripples in the detailing world. Two: Sigma is a spray sealant created as a top-up to ceramic coatings. This from their website:

Sigma is a hybrid spray sealant and detailer infused with the very latest Si02 raw materials and nano chemistry to provide outstanding hydrophobics, slickness and gloss. Designed to prolong ceramic coatings and sealants with a strong focus on enhancing visual depth, slickness and water repellency.

I gave it a go over the weekend after ceramic coating an SL55 AMG and it’s excellent. Application is easy and the gloss levels are impressive, although the car I’d worked on was looking pretty good anyway after a 2-stage paint correction. My favourite top-up protective spray to date has been the fantastic Gtechniq C2. Time will tell whether GT Two: Sigma can beat it on protection and gloss levels.

Have a look at the Paul Dolden Details YouTube channel for a decent review.