Jaguar ipace driving to Italian lakes - good idea??
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Any advice and information would be great, so I am driving to lake Como in a couple of weeks and although I was going to take a petrol car my wife would love us to take the ipace as its bigger and more comfortable....i am concerned that (a) charging would be a bit of a nightmare and (b) cruising at 90ish it wouldn't last very long.
So two questions would i would really appreciate advice on 1) how many miles does an ipace do @90ish and 2) what is charging like on French motorways? It seems the shell app indicates there are lots of charging points but.....
Thanks!!!
So two questions would i would really appreciate advice on 1) how many miles does an ipace do @90ish and 2) what is charging like on French motorways? It seems the shell app indicates there are lots of charging points but.....
Thanks!!!
Found a post on another forum where a guy has done a 90mph run (145kph).
So that's 39kWh used to cover 60 miles at 90mph, a total range of maybe 130-140 miles in summer at those speeds?
https://www.ipaceforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&am...
So that's 39kWh used to cover 60 miles at 90mph, a total range of maybe 130-140 miles in summer at those speeds?
https://www.ipaceforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&am...
SWoll said:
Found a post on another forum where a guy has done a 90mph run (145kph).
So that's 39kWh used to cover 60 miles at 90mph, a total range of maybe 130-140 miles in summer at those speeds?
https://www.ipaceforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&am...
It truly is absolutely terrible when it comes to efficiency. Wow.So that's 39kWh used to cover 60 miles at 90mph, a total range of maybe 130-140 miles in summer at those speeds?
https://www.ipaceforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&am...
It's very noticeable in an EV how high speeds use lots of power.
Apart from small rolling resistance, power is used to move air out of the way.
The solution is to drive slower, which could reduce overall journey times.
As it happens the battery % meter on my eNV is equivalent to distance ie 1% equals 1 kilometre. Hence if i have 20 kilometres to a charger with 19% left, I just keep slowing down until the % is higher than the distance to travel. Never run out yet.
Hobo said:
I'm taking the Etron to the dordogne next week and have the same concerns, but hey ho.
Do you think the motorway charging system will be okay or will you have to go off the motorway searching for power...... i find the fact that you have to sign up for the apps before and sort out a real hassle...YoungMD said:
Do you think the motorway charging system will be okay or will you have to go off the motorway searching for power...... i find the fact that you have to sign up for the apps before and sort out a real hassle...
I'm in no real rush to be honest, but looking at 'Chargemap' app it seems relatively straightforward. No doubt something will be thrown up though to challenge that. The plan is only to stop at 100kw+ chargers which will mean 30 minute stops (3 no. in France), which in essence with 3 kids in the car is no different to normal anyway.Plan at the moment is;
Set off from Leeds
Charge @ Milton Keynes (175kw) - 30 mins
Charge @ Maidstone (350kw) - 15 mins
Eurostar from Folkstone to Calais
Charge @ Aire De Rely (350kw) - 15mins
Charge @ Briss-sous-Forges (175kw) - 30 mins
Charge @ Saint-Sulpice-les-Feuilles (350kw) - 15 mins
On to final destination (130 miles further where i will need to charge local at a slower rate ready for return)
Overall, 5 charges totalling around 1 3/4 hours. It would have been good if I could have made Maidstone on the initial charge but unfortunately just 20 miles too far.
Hobo said:
I'm in no real rush to be honest, but looking at 'Chargemap' app it seems relatively straightforward. No doubt something will be thrown up though to challenge that. The plan is only to stop at 100kw+ chargers which will mean 30 minute stops (3 no. in France), which in essence with 3 kids in the car is no different to normal anyway.
Plan at the moment is;
Set off from Leeds
Charge @ Milton Keynes (175kw) - 30 mins
Charge @ Maidstone (350kw) - 15 mins
Eurostar from Folkstone to Calais
Charge @ Aire De Rely (350kw) - 15mins
Charge @ Briss-sous-Forges (175kw) - 30 mins
Charge @ Saint-Sulpice-les-Feuilles (350kw) - 15 mins
On to final destination (130 miles further where i will need to charge local at a slower rate ready for return)
Overall, 5 charges totalling around 1 3/4 hours. It would have been good if I could have made Maidstone on the initial charge but unfortunately just 20 miles too far.
The e-tron charges at max 150kw - you won’t get any faster charge on a 350kw charger than a 175kw.Plan at the moment is;
Set off from Leeds
Charge @ Milton Keynes (175kw) - 30 mins
Charge @ Maidstone (350kw) - 15 mins
Eurostar from Folkstone to Calais
Charge @ Aire De Rely (350kw) - 15mins
Charge @ Briss-sous-Forges (175kw) - 30 mins
Charge @ Saint-Sulpice-les-Feuilles (350kw) - 15 mins
On to final destination (130 miles further where i will need to charge local at a slower rate ready for return)
Overall, 5 charges totalling around 1 3/4 hours. It would have been good if I could have made Maidstone on the initial charge but unfortunately just 20 miles too far.
Will be interested to hear how you get on.
theboss said:
Hobo said:
I'm in no real rush to be honest, but looking at 'Chargemap' app it seems relatively straightforward. No doubt something will be thrown up though to challenge that. The plan is only to stop at 100kw+ chargers which will mean 30 minute stops (3 no. in France), which in essence with 3 kids in the car is no different to normal anyway.
Plan at the moment is;
Set off from Leeds
Charge @ Milton Keynes (175kw) - 30 mins
Charge @ Maidstone (350kw) - 15 mins
Eurostar from Folkstone to Calais
Charge @ Aire De Rely (350kw) - 15mins
Charge @ Briss-sous-Forges (175kw) - 30 mins
Charge @ Saint-Sulpice-les-Feuilles (350kw) - 15 mins
On to final destination (130 miles further where i will need to charge local at a slower rate ready for return)
Overall, 5 charges totalling around 1 3/4 hours. It would have been good if I could have made Maidstone on the initial charge but unfortunately just 20 miles too far.
The e-tron charges at max 150kw - you won’t get any faster charge on a 350kw charger than a 175kw.Plan at the moment is;
Set off from Leeds
Charge @ Milton Keynes (175kw) - 30 mins
Charge @ Maidstone (350kw) - 15 mins
Eurostar from Folkstone to Calais
Charge @ Aire De Rely (350kw) - 15mins
Charge @ Briss-sous-Forges (175kw) - 30 mins
Charge @ Saint-Sulpice-les-Feuilles (350kw) - 15 mins
On to final destination (130 miles further where i will need to charge local at a slower rate ready for return)
Overall, 5 charges totalling around 1 3/4 hours. It would have been good if I could have made Maidstone on the initial charge but unfortunately just 20 miles too far.
Will be interested to hear how you get on.
Certain stops don't need to be to 100% though.
Milton Keynes to Maidstone is only 100 miles (so would only need a 10 minute stop max)
Maidstone to Air De Rely is only 72 miles (so again would only need a 10 mins max)
the last 2 are the larger charges but should tie up with meal/rink/toilet breaks anyway.
Think giving myself 2 hours for 4 charges is reasonable. Hoping for a bit better range in the better climate also
What can possibly go wrong....
Hobo said:
Appreciated. Overlooked that.
Certain stops don't need to be to 100% though.
Milton Keynes to Maidstone is only 100 miles (so would only need a 10 minute stop max)
Maidstone to Air De Rely is only 72 miles (so again would only need a 10 mins max)
the last 2 are the larger charges but should tie up with meal/rink/toilet breaks anyway.
Think giving myself 2 hours for 4 charges is reasonable. Hoping for a bit better range in the better climate also
What can possibly go wrong....
Good luck!Certain stops don't need to be to 100% though.
Milton Keynes to Maidstone is only 100 miles (so would only need a 10 minute stop max)
Maidstone to Air De Rely is only 72 miles (so again would only need a 10 mins max)
the last 2 are the larger charges but should tie up with meal/rink/toilet breaks anyway.
Think giving myself 2 hours for 4 charges is reasonable. Hoping for a bit better range in the better climate also
What can possibly go wrong....
Where the charges are not so far apart you’ll be faster charging to 80% as the last 20% takes longer I.e. charging from 40% to 80% should only take about 15 mins, but to 100% will take disproportionately longer.
I would be looking for alternate “diversion” options for each charging location just incase you get there to find completely dysfunctional facilities - a bit like planning for a flight!
I may be driving across Europe myself next month but I’ll be taking the petrol car - I’ll be heading too far off the beaten track to risk the EV.
Are you using the Audi RFID and free credit? One thing I would do first if you haven’t already is just try your local Ionity or similar to confirm the process. I did so recently with Instavolt, realised the charger wouldn’t accept the RFID and ended up using contactless. Only after I realised there is the option in the Audi app to start a charging session. I don’t therefore know when you would ever use the RFID card itself but the app has been fairly flakey recently and I wouldn’t want to depend on it!
Hobo said:
Appreciated. Overlooked that.
Certain stops don't need to be to 100% though.
Milton Keynes to Maidstone is only 100 miles (so would only need a 10 minute stop max)
Maidstone to Air De Rely is only 72 miles (so again would only need a 10 mins max)
the last 2 are the larger charges but should tie up with meal/rink/toilet breaks anyway.
Think giving myself 2 hours for 4 charges is reasonable. Hoping for a bit better range in the better climate also
What can possibly go wrong....
Very helpful thanks, I think electric cars have a fair way to go until they are a truly mass market proposition, that said with some planning they can work fine but I fear that is simply because there are not many of them currently.... have to say though the ipace is a lovely car and some how running a big uneconomical juice gusslier seems fine when its electric.....Certain stops don't need to be to 100% though.
Milton Keynes to Maidstone is only 100 miles (so would only need a 10 minute stop max)
Maidstone to Air De Rely is only 72 miles (so again would only need a 10 mins max)
the last 2 are the larger charges but should tie up with meal/rink/toilet breaks anyway.
Think giving myself 2 hours for 4 charges is reasonable. Hoping for a bit better range in the better climate also
What can possibly go wrong....
vikingaero said:
It's a shame there's no option to plug in on the train. From loading to unloading you'd get nearly an hours worth. And it's not like there isn't electricity overhead/on board!
Until people start tripping over cables going to the toilets, or somebody’s car still isn’t releasing the charging plug 15 minutes after the doors have opened on the other side.The last few trips I’ve made have been very fast on/off with no waiting. Unless they were offering rapid charging in a designated area I can’t see that the 35-40 mins worth of charge for customers would be worth the hassle to the operator.
I notice charging is an option onboard some of the Irish Sea ferries now, but you have to turn up an hour earlier and it’s not on the fastest boats. No idea about charging rates.
YoungMD said:
SWoll said:
It would take a brave/patient man to attempt a 1500 mile round trip in either.
Good luck Sir.
Well I'm actually going to take the silver one but my wife thinks is a bit small / loud tyre noise ......there are no words sometimes .....Good luck Sir.
You aren't looking at this in the right way, she's clearly just given you the green light to look for a comfy V12 continent crushing GT car.
How much are DB9's nowadays?
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