84k service on 156

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blugnu

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241 months

Tuesday 21st June 2005
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I had my 84k service on Monday - it should be a cheapie at 0.7 hours, but I needed discs and pads all round so it came in at £500. Not too bad I suppose.

However, the 'Comments' section didn't make pleasant reading. Two comments in particular sound bad for the wallet:

1) Suspect mass air flow meter fault
2) Sump cracked

No.1 is in response to my query about the flat spot at 3,000rpm. Any other JTD owners with any experience of this? They didn't put it on the diagnostics to confirm, but it sounds likely.

No.2 is a result of the car being so low and the engine so heavy. I'm pretty sure I know where I did it (nearly broke my teeth, let alone the sump) and it does explain the oil on my drive. I can get a replacement (any idea of a price pwig?) or get it welded for about £160. Anyone had any experience of either or recommendation?

Cheers.

tr7v8

7,192 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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Ummm I had the flat spot at 3,000, turned out not to be the AFM but a leak somewhere around it. They tried another off another car and found that it dissapeared, putting my old one back on it had gone so came to the conclusion that it was one of the joints not sealing. Having said that AFM & MAP sensors are weak points, but then their German made by Bosche so what do you expect
As for the sump I'm surprised I whacked my undertray a few times but never struck the sump. I've been told that the ali isn't particularly good for welding but YMMV.
Incidentally when I needed discs I went to Car Parts Direct and brought their Rossini Grooved ones, looked super sexy and were £ 150 the fronts shipped, my Alfa dealer were happy to fit them.

Jim

>> Edited by tr7v8 on Wednesday 22 June 08:28

blugnu

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Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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Cheers Jim

I'll mention the possibility of a leak to the garage - sounds cheaper :-)

I've battered the undertray on mine more times than I care to mention but I've had the car long enough to drive in sympathy with bumps. What caught me out for the cracked sump was the road suddenly dipping away - I smacked the sump as the road levelled out again. I saw the bl**dy great gouge in the bottom of it when it had its MOT a few months back, but I had my fingers crossed that the leak was something simple like a loose sump plug!

Nick

pdV6

16,442 posts

261 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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AFMs are a really silly weak spot. One decent test is simply to unplug the lead from it and see if the car goes any better. If so, get a new one.

Cracked sump = sort it ASAP!

pwig

11,956 posts

270 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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Give me a few mins and I get you a price...

pwig

11,956 posts

270 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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As a _very_ rough price, you are looking at about £500. But I think the labour part of it may be a bit much. Email me your reg number and I will get a deffo price for you if you want?

blugnu

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Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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Cheers Pwig - the guy who did the service said it'd be about £500 for a new sump too. Car is Y509 MDK, but tbh I think I might just get it welded - the garage reckon that will be more like £150.

pwig

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270 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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Bloody 'ell nick, you could have said it was you!

I see what I can do

blugnu

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Wednesday 22nd June 2005
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Sorry mate - thought you'd have known from the 84k / brakes thing!

Cheers

Nick

silverback mike

11,290 posts

253 months

Friday 24th June 2005
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tr7v8 said:
Ummm I had the flat spot at 3,000, turned out not to be the AFM but a leak somewhere around it. They tried another off another car and found that it dissapeared, putting my old one back on it had gone so came to the conclusion that it was one of the joints not sealing. Having said that AFM & MAP sensors are weak points, but then their German made by Bosche so what do you expect
As for the sump I'm surprised I whacked my undertray a few times but never struck the sump. I've been told that the ali isn't particularly good for welding but YMMV.
Incidentally when I needed discs I went to Car Parts Direct and brought their Rossini Grooved ones, looked super sexy and were £ 150 the fronts shipped, my Alfa dealer were happy to fit them.

Jim

>> Edited by tr7v8 on Wednesday 22 June 08:28


It's still going strong Jim... Must be the longest I have kept a car for a while so it's a good sign.
Incidentally the flat spot is back, did you cure it by checking the airflow attachments?

Sorry, bit of a thread hijack there.

Hope the porker is doing well, sold mine for a TVR

tr7v8

7,192 posts

228 months

Monday 27th June 2005
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Mike, glad you're still happy, Porker is well and has now done 4k miles since buying it!
Flat spot took the garage 2 attempts to sort. AFM is favourite and a common point of failure. Worth finding a specialist to investigate as otherwise all they do is just fit new bits at your expense till they fix it! It doesn't show up on the diagnostics either AFAIK. MAF sensors also have a fairly short life but generally affect driveability, rather than give a misfire.

Jim

silverback mike

11,290 posts

253 months

Monday 27th June 2005
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Cheers Jim.