RE: 2020 Honda e | UK Review
RE: 2020 Honda e | UK Review
Tuesday 21st July 2020

2020 Honda e | UK Review

A lot has changed since the e's launch in January, but Honda's new EV remains as intriguing as ever



Perhaps more than any other electric vehicle, range is an unavoidable topic when it comes to the Honda e. So much so, in fact, that its full charge maximum is mentioned on the joining email; if you go off piste driving the car and run out of charge, the bill for being recovered is on you, the journalist. Which is understandable, of course, if a bit unusual for a mail that is normally read to find out when lunch is. But it became an especially daunting prospect with navigation that did a good job on its own of diverting the car off the prescribed route. In any other car, you'd fill it up, or there'd be sufficient range that a detour would be less of a concern. But when the car is showing 100 miles to empty with a full charge, it's difficult to be so confident when inadvertently in the wrong direction...

Now, there are plenty more points of merit to discuss around the Honda e, which we'll get to, but the concerns around range and charging can't go unaddressed. Because, yes, the idea of it being an urban car for urban journeys, for fitting a smaller, lighter battery to make a smaller car and promoting new charging solutions are all valid. But the fact remains that very few urban dwellers have access to a driveway (for the Honda Power Charger that gives the four-hour charge capability) and the Ubitricity alternative - with charging points in lampposts that can be charged to your domestic tariff - still has its limitations. The rollout is progressing (and there are thousands in London), but at present not one exists between Luton and Liverpool. And anyone who has to charge an e through a three-pin plug must wait 18 hours for the 35.5kWh battery to fully charged.

So the e feels a bit compromised from the get go; those after a city EV could look at something like a SEAT Mii for two thirds of the price, and anyone coveting something small but with a bit of range should look at the e-208, which offers a WLTP range almost 100 miles better than the Honda at 217 miles.


You knew there was a 'but' coming, though, didn't you? What facts and stats don't take into account is one key attribute, probably the most decisive one that exists when it comes to new car buying: desirability. The want-one factor. Allure, appeal, intrigue; whatever you want to call it, the Honda e has it in spades, where perhaps it's more worthy rivals do not. Don't underestimate the appeal of subjective preference either; look at the success of the Mini and Fiat 500 for proof of that.

The e charm offensive begins inside, the 'loft'-style cabin as appealing in the sunshine of Staines as it was in the rain of Spain. Here's where EV architecture really feels to benefit, too, with great visibility, a properly spacious interior for the front passengers and a sense of airiness that doesn't seem to come with conventionally powered superminis. It's place you want to be, stylish and high quality and interesting, before considering the how well integrated the technology is and how swish almost every material is for a Honda. Even the most cynical will have a lot of their e concerns assuaged just by the interior.

The drive helps, too. For now, UK buyers (and there are 500 orders already) are being offered the 154hp Advance model; the 136hp standard car will arrive at some point in 2021, though it's expected to make up only around 20 per cent of sales. As always, electric performance flatters to deceive from rest, the dinky Honda feeling even brisker than the official 8.3-second 0-62mph dash would have you believe away from the lights. In something so small, in confined urban environments, the instantaneous performance is really exciting, more so than any combustion-engined equivalent could be: see the gap and you're in the gap, almost like the car has been teleported, aided by those clever rear-view cameras. Because we wouldn't think about darting anywhere before a mirror check and signal beforehand.


The rear-wheel drive powertrain feels very nicely calibrated, too, adding to impression of the e being meticulously and lovingly engineered. Driven in normal mode both throttle and brake have good weight and resistance, inspiring confidence from the off and in any situation, be that an urban crawl, motorway dice or pretending any minor road is a Japanese T?ge. There's also the Single Pedal Control System, where the e can be driven entirely on the accelerator, right down to zero and without any creep built in. Its level of regen can be adjusted on the steering wheel paddles (the left 'down' paddle introduces more, like changing to a lower ratio, the right 'up' lessens the effect) and again works cohesively. It's hard to imagine that getting proper subtlety and nuance into a pedal travel of a few centimetres is simple, and it's been done really well here. The SPCS introduces some new EV interactivity, in addition, because the paddles can be used to 'downchange' on the way into a bend, adding more regen to slow the car down without touching the brakes, and then clicked back up on the way out in preparation for the next corner. It's not much, but shows a concession to the idea that some people might want to actively involve themselves in the business of driving.

As does what's underneath. Because Honda presumably didn't have to fit independent suspension (albeit Macpherson struts) at each corner, make the weight balance 50:50 or fit Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres, but it did - and it pays dividends. The e handles smartly, more so than you would credit to a 1,500kg city car, and rides with a certain sophistication that's also a pleasant surprise, even on optional 17-inch wheels. Again, its aptitude is best experienced in town, shrugging off speed bumps and darting around roundabouts with aplomb. The turning circle gives the e the manoeuvrability of a dodgem and the variable ratio steering, if overly light, is accurate enough. Limited to the city and suburbs, the e is nothing less than a joy. There is no desire to return to a combustion engined city car after tackling any kind of urban drive in a Honda e - they can't compete.

You knew there was another 'but' coming here as well, right? And this one seems a particularly churlish issue, like slamming an S-Class for its poor track showing or the fuel economy of a Huracan, but it's a fact that the e is noticeably less adept out of town. Not in terms of performance, because it zaps up to speed really nicely. But asked to deal with successive changes of direction or surface imperfections at speed and the combination of the short wheelbase and chubby kerbweight begins to tell; the e just feels out of its comfort zone. Which it quite patently is. Not hopelessly, just a bit untidily, in a way that something like - you've guessed it - a Mini Electric is not.


Have we really made it this far without mentioning the Mini? Incredible. The two are irresistibly close, both doing funky and desirable EV city car with a limited range against less trendy alternatives, price tags around £30k and battery capacities within just a few kWh of each other. Away from town, it's impossible to avoid the conclusion that the Mini's more mature handling is preferable, the weight feeling even lower and the balance more neutral. On the other hand, the Honda is more fun in the city. The Mini interior is smart, sensible and sporty, actually better for a driver than the Honda, if nowhere near as engaging.

Which, handily, brings us back to discussion of the original compromise. Because, if anything, the Honda has gazumped the Mini at its own game. 20 years ago the Mini was the car that was more expensive than superminis but much less practical, seemingly offering little over established choices for its premium. Which it didn't, on paper, but car buying decisions aren't (or shouldn't) be made on paper. The Mini was cool, and people flocked to its cute styling and personalisation options - it was a small car like never before, and people paid the premium because they really, really wanted one. And nobody really wants a Yaris (or not one with less than 250hp, anyway).

That's what the Honda e feels like. Concerns about its limited remit persist - especially in market which favours the broad talent of the Golf R, the Audi TT and Porsche Cayman to the lithe brilliance of a Renault Sport Megane, Toyota GT86 and Lotus Elise. But such worries are offset by the car's apparently innate desirability. And that's not just because for the styling: the urban driving experience is unmatched and the motorway manners more than good enough. Maybe it should go further for £32k; maybe it should be supported by a devoted charging network; maybe it should be a bit lighter while we're at it, and as quick as the Mini. Don't forget, though, that they're on-paper concerns, arguments from the head rather than from the heart - and we typically default to the latter. Not for nothing either, but good design - i.e. making something seem intrinsically desirable - is the objective of virtually every consumer electronic device you've picked up in the last twenty years. Honda has astutely harnessed some of that charisma, to the extent where certain people are going to make it fit their lives whether it does so perfectly or not. That hardly makes it a superlative electric car. But it's a wonderful place to start.


SPECIFICATION | HONDA E

Engine: 35.5 kWh lithium ion battery, electric motor
Transmission: Automatic single speed Fixed Reduction Gear
Power: 136 hp (Advance 154)
Torque: 232lb ft
0-62mph: 9.0 seconds (Advance 8.3)
Top speed: 90mph
Kerbweight: 1,514kg (1,527kg for Advance on 16-inch wheels, 1,542kg for Advance on 17-inch wheels)
MPG: 137 miles/220km range (WLTP full charge range, for standard car and Advance on 16-inch wheels; 125 miles/201km for Advance on 17-inch wheels)
CO2: 0g/km driving
Price: £29,660 (Advance £32,160)









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drpep

Original Poster:

1,761 posts

198 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Let's start with the positive:
- It looks fantastic on the outside - charming, cute in fact.
- It's footprint makes it a perfect city car.
- It appears to be loaded with modern tech.
- Rear wheel drive?! Unexpected plus in this segment.

Downsides?
Range, price, Screen overload, kerb weight.

It is quite cute though; sure that'll be enough for many, though probably not so much on this forum.

Edited by drpep on Tuesday 21st July 01:30

sidesauce

2,967 posts

248 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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For the people this is aimed at, screen overload won't be an issue, neither will kerbweight. In fact, I don't even think range is too much of a problem as this is obviously meant for those who don't need crazy range. I think it'll be a smash, particularly as it will be VED/ULEZ/congestion charge free for the next 5 years (and yes, ULEZ/congestion charging isn't going to be a London exclusive thing for long - Heathrow's looking to introduce it just to drive there) so it'll be pretty cheap to run.

Obviously people on here will complain that the production version isn't as good as the concept but to the public out there who aren't enthusiasts, it's just... lovely. I'm not the target market and even I love it!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Its perfect for its audience, which isnt a large group but its nice to see some choice out there.

This is (hopefully for the honda e) just the start, the i3 doubled its battery capacity in just 7-8 years so the mk2 etc should broaden its appeal

Certainly wouldnt be my only car but as a second or pure city run about if you dont need more it looks fun.

ch37

10,642 posts

251 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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I predict this discussion will be full of the following come sunrise...

- Range not good enough
- Infrastructure not there yet
- Too watered down from concept
- Too expensive

I think that's missing the point though. No one buys an Abarth 500 because it's better than every competitor, no one picks a Jimny over a Duster because it's the logical thing to do.


dendyb

20 posts

211 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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I like this a lot. I think it looks just as good as the concept, too. IF I were to buy en EV, one of these would be right up near the top of the list, but as per the article, I’d struggle to choose this over the Mini. The Mini just seems to be more ‘polished’, plus I like it’s interior more, and don’t see the Honda finish being up there with the Mini. I don’t recall much mention of the interior, but I like the camera mirrors, wing and rearview, but that full bank of screens is a bit much methinks.

unsprung

6,054 posts

154 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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sidesauce said:
Obviously people on here will complain that the production version isn't as good as the concept
Present and correct, Sir !!



Esceptico

8,897 posts

139 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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To be honest for 98% of the year this would work fine as an only car for us because we almost never do 100 miles in one day and we have a garage so could be charging it when not in use. However it would mean having to rent something else for the other 2% which could be a pain. If I were marketing this type of car I would think about having that facility ie owners get access to rental car for up to two weeks at preferential rates and they can be booked easily and delivered/picked up.

BoggoStump

317 posts

79 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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The new Corsa e looks better than this.

Jaaws

173 posts

131 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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ash73 said:
Let's remind ourselves, this is what we were promised:



The production version is fugly, buy the MINI.
When did Honda promise to build and market that design concept please?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Jaaws said:
When did Honda promise to build and market that design concept please?
they didnt, they even built the show car/concept after they built the mass production prototype.

RSchneider

215 posts

194 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Sight unseen, don't support any politically motivated battery car stuff. No more tolerance. Battery cars have only one goal: To limit individual mobility.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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RSchneider said:
Battery cars have only one goal: To limit individual mobility.
tinfoil hats are that way ---->

FA57REN

1,272 posts

85 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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sidesauce said:
For the people this is aimed at, screen overload won't be an issue
For the journeys this is designed for I don't think the driver will even have time to look at that array of screens. They'll throw their phone onto the passenger seat and expect it to pair immediately so they can keep listening to their podcast whilst they nipndown to Waitrose.

It's like the interior team were given requirements and budget for a long-distance GT rather than a city car that will make five-minute darts.

Overall it's a pity that Honda took the lazy option of building a £30k EV instead of challenging themselves to build something at £10k

Edited by FA57REN on Tuesday 21st July 05:24

Guybrush

4,364 posts

236 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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I expect range will be even worse in cold weather. Oh and when it's dark.

ch37

10,642 posts

251 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Esceptico said:
To be honest for 98% of the year this would work fine as an only car for us because we almost never do 100 miles in one day and we have a garage so could be charging it when not in use. However it would mean having to rent something else for the other 2% which could be a pain. If I were marketing this type of car I would think about having that facility ie owners get access to rental car for up to two weeks at preferential rates and they can be booked easily and delivered/picked up.
I think this would be true for most people, a huge majority of journeys (and commutes) are significantly less than 30 miles and average mileage is actually dropping.

If I could drop my e off at the Honda garage and grab a Jazz when I need to do my 4 or 5 long journeys per year that would have me covered.

Al U

2,394 posts

161 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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ash73 said:
Let's remind ourselves, this is what we were promised:



The production version is fugly, buy the MINI.
This, quite frankly is the sort of comment that comes from the untrained eye.

The first thing I thought when I saw it is what a good job they have done getting close to what the concept suggested (as all concept cars do, merely suggest) the car would look like.

The styling is fantastic on this car, to the point that looking at the first image on this article had me thinking about trading in my 3 series for a second.

I then saw the range and 3 pin socket charge time. Just won't be usable for me when things go back to normal and considering I sadly spend most of my motoring on motorways I expect there will be more suitable options when I do decide to get an EV.

moonigan

2,209 posts

271 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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This and any other EV in the same price bracket would be an excellent choice for my wife. She doesnt do tons of miles, only drives local and hates going to the petrol station. We had an i3 a few years ago and she loved it but the problem is those pesky IC cars and the value they offer. We looked at EVs a couple of years ago but in the end came home with a heavily discounted brand new A6 Black Edition for less money. The A6 has space, comfort, relative performance and reliabilty.

So you have got to really want one of these and be happy to live with the compromises rather than choose an IC car whose only real compromise is that occasionally you need to put fuel in it.

Numeric

1,499 posts

181 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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My mother's Honda Jazz has less miles after 11 years than I put on my primary car in a year! For her all the mechanical gubbins are simply things that go wrong and many of us know the pitfalls of ultra low mileage cars - ICE like to be used.

SO while of course this car is not aimed at me in any way - for my mother it is utterly perfect. The only issue is the price which seems high for what it is but then I am suffering from 'sticker shock' at the moment on all cars.

StuntmanMike

15,096 posts

181 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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I actually quite like this.

This could go quite nicely in my house as a second car.

Got to be honest though, with that range it definitely is a second car.

If I want to go away for the weekend and the journey is 200 miles, how long would you have to typically stop and charge it?

The scenario would be maybe 30 miles short tripping around my village and then a 200 mile drive.

This is something that I occasionally do in my Jazz, just wondering how the EV would cope with this kind of day?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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StuntmanMike said:
The scenario would be maybe 30 miles short tripping around my village and then a 200 mile drive.

This is something that I occasionally do in my Jazz, just wondering how the EV would cope with this kind of day?
It's a small battery so should get to 80% pretty quick (90-100ish miles range) on just about any fast charger in 30-35 min, you would probably be better stopping twice and charging to a lower percentage with 200 motorway miles