What bike frame lift and why does my front brake rub
What bike frame lift and why does my front brake rub
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scarble

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5,277 posts

187 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Hi folks, looking for recommendations for a lift, the kind that lifts by slotting into the frame not the kind that pushes from underneath, I think it makes more sense, especially on fully faired bikes or any that don't have a bottom frame member? There doesn't seem to be a clear name for this type of lift even, but something like the warrior spider.
Are these things totally stable? Is the bike well supported?
Reason being I need to take the front wheel off. Have a rear padlock stand which I've never even used...
Bike is an er6f but might change it or get an additional one in the not too distant future, seems like many of the stands have a range of adapter plates for various bikes.

While I'm making a thread, does anyone know if the er6 has some kind of side to side adjustment in the front wheel? Since I had the tires replaced the brakes constantly rub slightly but caliper seems to move just fine. Tried reseating the pads and loosening caliper bolts and pushing down on the bars and retightening and that hasn't really changed anything.
Can't find any info on if the wheels can be shimmed or adjusted?

Edited by scarble on Wednesday 22 July 13:05

V8RX7

28,982 posts

293 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Take a look at the basic ABBA and the Abba skylift but yes the Warrior is decent enough

I'm unfamiliar with the ER6 but I'd take it off clean it up and grease the pins etc

Jazoli

9,681 posts

280 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Surely you just need a front paddock stand at 25 quid if you already have a rear one?

Or buy an ABBA stand.

Or if you want to spend lots of money buy a warrior stand.

thatdude

2,660 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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With regards to the mis-aligned caliper, there is no "shim" adjustment of the front wheel required - the spacers should hold everything correctly. You're right to take the front wheel off and check for anything up with the spacers (put in the wrong way etc etc). I've never had this issue with any bike I've worked on, everything should go back as comfortably as it came apart.

Are you able to put up some pictures of how the front brake is rubbing / fouling against another part of the bike?


Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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For the wheel/brake issue, isn't there a specific tightening sequence to make sure the caliper is properly aligned?

Jazoli

9,681 posts

280 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Krikkit said:
For the wheel/brake issue, isn't there a specific tightening sequence to make sure the caliper is properly aligned?
No there isn't, its just 2 bolts off the carrier at the back of the fork leg, you would just do it like any other caliper, nip them both up then set to correct torque, I'm not sure what the OP's pushing the bars would achieve wink

OP have you pushed the pads back into the caliper to push the piston back in? does it stick/rub then?

Edited by Jazoli on Wednesday 22 July 15:43

podman

9,085 posts

270 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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No idea how far away you are but if you can get it to Northampton, you can use my Abba Skylift, we can have a look at it then...

V8RX7

28,982 posts

293 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Jazoli said:
I'm not sure what the OP's pushing the bars would achieve
I think he's describing the procedure where you straighten the wheel to the bars by loosening the triple clamp etc but that wouldn't affect the brake IME

scarble

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5,277 posts

187 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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podman said:
No idea how far away you are but if you can get it to Northampton, you can use my Abba Skylift, we can have a look at it then...
Nice of you to offer but a bit out the way. Mrs has already given permission to buy a stand.. And it's relatively expensive but also just looks so damn easy and you can apparently maneuver the bike around on it, handy for tight garages.
The fork diving thing apparently would magically align the caliper and I didn't get it but did it anyway.
99% sure the caliper is just fine but the disk is too far over, although possibly warped if they were really ham-fisted. Was a respected kawazaki dealer tho so you'd hope not.. Wish I'd taken it back right away but it was probably about a year ago now and I haven't really ridden it since.. Been a busy year.

Edited by scarble on Wednesday 22 July 22:38

airsafari87

3,307 posts

212 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Not knowing what the front set up of an er6 is have you looked at the following?

Are the pinch bolts at the bottom of the fork leg loose? If they aren't loosened off enough the bottom of the fork leg may be slightly pinched in and won't allow the spindle to fully seat.

Is the wheel in the right way around?
If the bike is ABS equipped it should be obvious which way the wheel goes back in. For whatever reason there may be a slight positional difference of the brake discs on each side of the wheel. If that is the case and the wheel is in the wrong way around that could be the cause of the rubbing.

scarble

Original Poster:

5,277 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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I though about that but.. If I turn the wheel around will the tyre then be the wrong way round?
Or maybe I swap the spacers over.. Didn't get half a chance to have a look last night so I'll try again tonight, the pinch bolt thing sounds likely.. Now I have a feeling I was going to do this before but need a tool I don't have...

airsafari87

3,307 posts

212 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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scarble said:
I though about that but.. If I turn the wheel around will the tyre then be the wrong way round?
Or maybe I swap the spacers over.. Didn't get half a chance to have a look last night so I'll try again tonight, the pinch bolt thing sounds likely.. Now I have a feeling I was going to do this before but need a tool I don't have...
Depends if the tyres have been put on the correct way?

Like I say, if the bike does have ABS then the wheel can only go on one way, otherwise the ABS sensor on the fork leg won't pick up the ABS ring on the wheel.

First check that that is correct and if it is and the tyre is seemingly going thr wrong way take the wheel back to your tyre fitter and have them mount it the correct way.

exportman

13 posts

112 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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Hi

I used an abba stand for my ER6 it was a great help Still have it also now an abba sky lift another good but expensive bit of kit. Brake binding something is miss aligned start with the simple loosen the bottom of the forks so the spindle has some free play hold the front brake and bounce the forks up and down this will allow the forks and spindle to centre then tighten up again

Baldchap

9,629 posts

122 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Front tyres fitted correctly often look 'backwards', could it be that it's gone back in the way that looks logically correct but actually isn't?