I'm a bit puzzled, is this of any importance?
I'm a bit puzzled, is this of any importance?
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eldar

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25,269 posts

225 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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I'm the landlord of a flat in the west mids. The tenant, a woman in her mid 20s with two young kids - 4 & 8. She's been there a few years, no problems, no arrears, great tenant. Rent is paid by benefts.

Friday, I receive a letter from the DSS saying she's moved out, and benefits stopped. Fair enough, but I'm a bit surprised she hasn't let me know. Out of character not to communicate.

I've been unable to contact her at all, she seems to have vanished without a trace. Again, fair enough.

Went round to the flat today, locks had been changed and there was a nasty rotting smell from inside. called a locksmith, and got inside.

The smell was rotting food, it was obvious she had left at very short notice, all her belongings except electricals are still there, but very disordered.

A neighbour said she had vanished quietly and suddenly about a week ago. An ex partner was 'after her' it seemed.

This concerned me a little. I thought I'd check with the police.

Easier said than done. I phoned west mids police on 101, missing tenant is in West mids, I live in Leicestershire. After an hour I'm told thbis is nothing to do with west mids, I have to contact Leicester.

Another hour on to Leicestershire, and I'm told the opposite, but they'll transfer me, but fail, rather embarrassed, after an further 30 minutes.

Seems the police aren't particularly concerned, should I worry or not?

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Probably not too much to worry about, as she's kept her moneystream up to date. If you are feeling particularly kind, pack her remaining stuff nicely, not just hoi it all in the bin.

Terminator X

20,562 posts

233 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Potential missing person and/or worse, sorry can't help. Speeding ticket in the post though.

TX.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

96 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Some friends of mine have a "dispensation" form ever having to be on an electoral role, amongst other things, due to the nature of a particular individual who'd like to catch up with them. There's some pretty nasty freaks out there and probably happens more often than you think, I mean you can only imprison someone for a specific offence for a specific time, then they're free.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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I don’t see how it can be a missing person matter. She was capable enough to tell the DSS she’s moved out. You can’t then use the fact she’s moved out as evidence she’s missing.

greygoose

9,661 posts

224 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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Perhaps she has gone to a refuge if her partner is “after her”.

andburg

8,732 posts

198 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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shes told DSS shes moved out, or perhaps hasn't. Maybe shes gone into some form of protection

The other questions is what to do with her stuff? I cant imagine just can just throw it all in a skip but you need to get the place cleaned and a new tenant in.
Can't see DSS helping you pay for the cleaning/storage/disposal costs.

any mail or does it look like a forward has been put in place?

V8RX7

28,982 posts

292 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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Bearing in mind 180,000 people go missing every year in the UK, you can imagine that someone who has simply left their accommodation in a hurry is hardly a priority.




A205GTI

750 posts

195 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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Surely contact DSS ref disposal of her goods and see what they advise?

as presumably they know where she is

AndyAudi

3,970 posts

251 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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andburg said:
. any mail or does it look like a forward has been put in place?
This was going to be my question, write to her at the property address saying what does she want done with her stuff & asking to reply, include SAE if you are feeling generous.

QuickQuack

2,808 posts

130 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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Given the prevalence of domestic violence against women, yes, I definitely think it's a worrying situation but at the same time, I think there's little you can do other than inform the police. There are many people who are estranged from their families so when they go missing, nobody does anything. It isn't beyond one's imagination that the person who informed the DSS could be someone else; I doubt anyone at DSS would notice or care. If you have details of her next of kin, you could try contacting them, if not, then I would report as missing, tidy up, put her possessions in some storage and see what happens. As suggested above, you could try sending something addressed to her to see if it gets delivered to the flat or if it gets redirected, and if there is a redirect in place, you can contact her that way.

RSTurboPaul

13,085 posts

287 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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It's good of you to be concerned and try to set things in motion - some landlords would just call her a [insert expletive of choice] and bin the lot.

Greendubber

15,263 posts

232 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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If shes missing from West Mids then they need to manage it. They can easily and quickly carry out a DWP check which should reveal her new address (if given) and they can do a safe and well on her.

Good on you for caring

eldar

Original Poster:

25,269 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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West mids contacted me this evening. Took all the information i could provide, and said they'd follow up. Hopefully she's ok.

SistersofPercy

3,570 posts

195 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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eldar said:
West mids contacted me this evening. Took all the information i could provide, and said they'd follow up. Hopefully she's ok.
Poor woman must be scared to run leaving everything behind.
The downside of this is you're going to end up billed for disposing of it all.

ashenfie

3,194 posts

75 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Seems odd the DSS told you, it would seem the she has done a midnight bunk. Would check your tenancy agreement as she might re-appear and expect to be back home. Hope you have a clause that says if the house is left empty for 28 days then the agreement ends. Then you can re-let the house to someone else with out issue

ashenfie

3,194 posts

75 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Seems odd the DSS told you, it would seem the she has done a midnight bunk. Would check your tenancy agreement as she might re-appear and expect to be back home. Hope you have a clause that says if the house is left empty for 28 days then the agreement ends. Then you can re-let the house to someone else with out issue

QBee

22,464 posts

173 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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You sound like a kind person.
She's a single mum with two small children, and it's some of their stuff as well has hers, I imagine.
So be a kind person, bag or box her stuff up, and store it for her.
It may not be worth a lot, but it would cost a lot more to replace it.

As she has a tenancy agreement she will have your contact details, or at least your number stored on her phone.
Hopefully she will be in touch soon and you will be able to give her the stuff back.

eldar

Original Poster:

25,269 posts

225 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Mystery solved, kind of. Her mum phoned, to see if i knew what was going on!

Seems an ex-boyfriend and father to one of the children is a rather nasty person, if google reports are to be anything to go by.

He has been harassing her for some time, and things came to a head a week or so ago when she was strongly advised (by whom - police, social care or someone else - isn't clear) to move out the area as soon as possible. Which she did, to a hostel some way away, where she'll stay until she can find somewhere to live away from the aggressive ex and his charming chums.

All her belonging are still in the flat, where they can stay for a while as the flat is renovated. It is obvious her life has taken a turn for the worse over the past few months, debt, food banks, depression and harassment.

Really quite sad.

andburg

8,732 posts

198 months

Thursday 30th July 2020
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eldar said:
Mystery solved, kind of. Her mum phoned, to see if i knew what was going on!

Seems an ex-boyfriend and father to one of the children is a rather nasty person, if google reports are to be anything to go by.

He has been harassing her for some time, and things came to a head a week or so ago when she was strongly advised (by whom - police, social care or someone else - isn't clear) to move out the area as soon as possible. Which she did, to a hostel some way away, where she'll stay until she can find somewhere to live away from the aggressive ex and his charming chums.

All her belonging are still in the flat, where they can stay for a while as the flat is renovated. It is obvious her life has taken a turn for the worse over the past few months, debt, food banks, depression and harassment.

Really quite sad.
Truly awful but at least she has an understanding (ex) landlord who genuinely cares about his tenants and is storing that shes left for her. You also have her mum's contact details so can forward on any mail she might receive.