Red light (traffic)

[Car12345]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 01 August 2020 at 08:09

[Drive it fix it repeat]

Spells danger

[cobra kid]

Roxanne

[DIW35]

Surely an amber red signal means be prepared to go. Can't imagine you would have any problems with that.

[anonymous-user]

DIW35 said:

Surely an amber red signal means be prepared to go

I always thought it means 'stop'

[2 sMoKiN bArReLs]

Drive it fix it repeat said:

Spells danger

Only if in the danger zone

[WJNB]

I'm sure if the said 'worker' was photographing you then upon receipt of the result be assured that a police armed response unit will be on your doorstep any time, in fact don't be surprised to find a police helicopter overhead at the same time. As if Plod has not got better things to do & in any case I suspect 'worker' was just bored & playing with his .....

[NGee]

280E said:

DIW35 said:

Surely an amber red signal means be prepared to go

I always thought it means 'stop'

You are already stopped!!

[Foss62]

NGee said:

280E said:

DIW35 said:

Surely an amber red signal means be prepared to go

I always thought it means 'stop'

You are already stopped!!

Some bizarre comments here. Surely it would be impossible to pass a driving test without knowing the phases of traffic lights and that red and amber means stop?
Why would you necessarily be stopped with a red and amber light in front of you? How about approaching a red light from a distance and seeing it change to red and amber before you reached it?

[NGee]

Foss62 said:

NGee said:

280E said:

DIW35 said:

Surely an amber red signal means be prepared to go

I always thought it means 'stop'

You are already stopped!!

Some bizarre comments here. Surely it would be impossible to pass a driving test without knowing the phases of traffic lights and that red and amber means stop?
Why would you necessarily be stopped with a red and amber light in front of you? How about approaching a red light from a distance and seeing it change to red and amber before you reached it?

Then you would just slow down until it went green when you got to it.

I'm not sure who you were aiming your 'bizarre comments' at but red/amber does not mean stop. So for the benefit of people who did manage to pass their test without knowing the phases of traffic lights, it goes like this :--

RED. Stop, unless instructed otherwise by a police officer
RED/AMBER. Get ready to move off (check mirrors, blind spots, select gear) do not move off until light goes green.
If approaching red/amber (as above) then slow down until they turn green.
GREEN. Go, if it is safe to do so.
AMBER. Stop, if it is safe to do so (No emergency stops!)

Rinse and repeat - hope that helps.

[Foss62]

NGee said:

Foss62 said:

NGee said:

280E said:

DIW35 said:

Surely an amber red signal means be prepared to go

I always thought it means 'stop'

You are already stopped!!

Some bizarre comments here. Surely it would be impossible to pass a driving test without knowing the phases of traffic lights and that red and amber means stop?
Why would you necessarily be stopped with a red and amber light in front of you? How about approaching a red light from a distance and seeing it change to red and amber before you reached it?

Then you would just slow down until it went green when you got to it.

I'm not sure who you were aiming your 'bizarre comments' at but red/amber does not mean stop. So for the benefit of people who did manage to pass their test without knowing the phases of traffic lights, it goes like this :--

RED. Stop, unless instructed otherwise by a police officer
RED/AMBER. Get ready to move off (check mirrors, blind spots, select gear) do not move off until light goes green.
If approaching red/amber (as above) then slow down until they turn green.
GREEN. Go, if it is safe to do so.
AMBER. Stop, if it is safe to do so (No emergency stops!)

Rinse and repeat - hope that helps.

Looks like they were aimed partially at you. Red and Amber means stop. The Highway Code is quite clear on that. None of the other stuff you suggest is particularly unreasonable but the lights are not telling you to do any of it.

[NGee]

Foss62 said:

Looks like they were aimed partially at you. Red and Amber means stop. The Highway Code is quite clear on that. None of the other stuff you suggest is particularly unreasonable but the lights are not telling you to do any of it.

OK If you want to be pedantic about it

RED/AMBER Remain stopped.

You can't stop if you are already stopped.

I am well aware of what the highway code says, it depends how you interpret the English language!

[Foss62]

NGee said:

Foss62 said:

Looks like they were aimed partially at you. Red and Amber means stop. The Highway Code is quite clear on that. None of the other stuff you suggest is particularly unreasonable but the lights are not telling you to do any of it.

OK If you want to be pedantic about it

RED/AMBER Remain stopped.

You can't stop if you are already stopped.

I am well aware of what the highway code says, it depends how you interpret the English language!

I suppose at least it makes a change from arguing over cyclists but that combination doesn’t mean anything other than stop (at the point the light is controlling). The lights and the regulations don’t care if you are already stopped or approaching, and the Highway Code doesn’t see fit to make this distinction either.
I imagine it would be very easy to tie yourself up in knots on a commentary drive with your argument....

[NGee]

Foss62 said:

I suppose at least it makes a change from arguing over cyclists but that combination doesn’t mean anything other than stop (at the point the light is controlling). The lights and the regulations don’t care if you are already stopped or approaching, and the Highway Code doesn’t see fit to make this distinction either.
I imagine it would be very easy to tie yourself up in knots on a commentary drive with your argument....

I have done plenty of commentary driving and I've never tied myself up in knots. I would no more tell someone to stop when they were already stopped than I would tell someone to go if they were already going!!

The highway code puts in a simple form, I am applying it to real life!
I do agree obviously that you should not cross the line if the lights are red/amber. However If you are looking where you are going and planning ahead you will NEVER have to STOP (i.e. the act of applying brakes and coming to a standstill) during the short time the lights are on red/amber.

Although you should remain stopped if you have already come to a stop when they were red

[BertBert]

Well the words of the hwc say red/amber also means stop. Hth
Bert

[littleredrooster]

...and if you would all like to re-read the OP, he says he went through on AMBER-RED, not red-amber. Big difference.

I would suggest that if he saw the red light, then he actually went through on red.

[SS2.]

For posterity..

Car12345 said:

Red light (traffic)

I was travelling through some temporary road works and I went through on amber-red. The lights did not appear to have cameras but the worker was taking photos on his phone? Any one aware of this.

[bad company]

That was the op’s first post and it looks like they’ve now done a runner.

[NGee]

littleredrooster said:

...and if you would all like to re-read the OP, he says he went through on AMBER-RED, not red-amber. Big difference.

I would suggest that if he saw the red light, then he actually went through on red.

Depends how you interpret it, you nay be right but I would take red-amber or amber-red to both mean the same i.e. both lights were on at the same time

[littleredrooster]

SS2. said:

For posterity..

Car12345 said:

Red light (traffic)

I was travelling through some temporary road works and I went through on amber-red. The lights did not appear to have cameras but the worker was taking photos on his phone? Any one aware of this.

Indeed - well done. I've ranted about this before, but PH does seem to be attracting some gormless tw4ts who delete and run.