Range Rover number 4?!
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Someone help me!
70something miles, turbos blown, engine might be blown.
Dropped by a Land Rover specialist to ask advice about a wiper stalk, owner said this just came in with dead turbos and owner is looking to shift it.
3 hours later it’s on the trailer
Usual rust for Scotland, interior is tidy.
70something miles, turbos blown, engine might be blown.
Dropped by a Land Rover specialist to ask advice about a wiper stalk, owner said this just came in with dead turbos and owner is looking to shift it.
3 hours later it’s on the trailer
Usual rust for Scotland, interior is tidy.
Right thats it home. My poor td6 felt the weight!
Garage had removed both pipes from the turbo to diagnose.
The usual rust up here.
This is my td6 for comparison of normal rust around here.
79k miles and a full tank of diesel!
Car has a full service history, had 40k on it 4 years ago, receipts for 4k in the last 3 years and owner couldnt stomach a 5k bill to have the turbos done. I can get turbos for £700 and my own hours is free so hopefully thats all it needs, worst case a new engine is on the cards if it has shat turbos into it.
Garage had removed both pipes from the turbo to diagnose.
The usual rust up here.
This is my td6 for comparison of normal rust around here.
79k miles and a full tank of diesel!
Car has a full service history, had 40k on it 4 years ago, receipts for 4k in the last 3 years and owner couldnt stomach a 5k bill to have the turbos done. I can get turbos for £700 and my own hours is free so hopefully thats all it needs, worst case a new engine is on the cards if it has shat turbos into it.
SpeckledJim said:
MJ85 said:
How much did you pay ?
With that rust I hope it was comfortably less than a grand. I can't see an argument for a rusty Range Rover. They've aged beautifully and still look 'all the money', but frilly arches completely undermine that.
A non runner with rust and 145k miles is currently over £1k with 3 days to go on auction. Here
Luckily the car isnt to look good for me, its a working vehicle basically. It will be abused and worked hard.
This is what is in the boot of my other one to hold all the ratchet straps, chains, jump cables, tools etc.
Low miles is prefered to rust free as any that live in the north of Scotland will rust. You can buy it rust free but give it 2 winters and the battle is lost.
As per my other one this will get a 2.5" lift and big chunky tyres again, offroad ability is worth the hit to mpg.
OpulentBob said:
Cool. Any more videos upcoming? Been enjoying your bits and pieces so far. You have some good fun (industrial) toys too.
Hopefully soon! The bmw and rolls are almost ready to be mashed together now. Life has done its thing and been in the way. Been more busy during lockdown than before.Wasnt really looking for a project L322 but had been bidding on a few cheap tdv8 sheds but they kept going for 3k+ for 200k mile rust boxes. Just happened to be in asking about a stalk problem that was head scratching when it got offered to me basically. Worst case it needs a new engine and turbos at £1500 for the lot making it a £4k car which is the same price as the cheapest ones online but with low miles.
Love it slow! Was seriously considering a well sorted one when I bought my Disco 4 last year, in the end opted for the younger car with the SDV6 instead
I have to ask though, if you need rugged, tough, hard working vehicles to graft in the highlands, why not a jap pickup or a defender 110? Why the more expensive to fix RR's? If "because i can" then hats off to you sir!
I have to ask though, if you need rugged, tough, hard working vehicles to graft in the highlands, why not a jap pickup or a defender 110? Why the more expensive to fix RR's? If "because i can" then hats off to you sir!
eltax91 said:
Love it slow! Was seriously considering a well sorted one when I bought my Disco 4 last year, in the end opted for the younger car with the SDV6 instead
I have to ask though, if you need rugged, tough, hard working vehicles to graft in the highlands, why not a jap pickup or a defender 110? Why the more expensive to fix RR's? If "because i can" then hats off to you sir!
I had a defender, for a few weeks before I hated it and got rid! We have had disco 1's, L200, toyota surf, shogun, isuzu trooper and nothing comes close for the same price.I have to ask though, if you need rugged, tough, hard working vehicles to graft in the highlands, why not a jap pickup or a defender 110? Why the more expensive to fix RR's? If "because i can" then hats off to you sir!
My ass is a big softy and loves the air suspension. Just last month I jumped in and drove to liverpool and back to get a car for a mate on the trailer. Putting 25k on one in a year is no bother - couldnt pay me to do that in a defender haha.
They are also cheap as chips to buy and run really. They are the biggest bargain on the roads if you can fix it yourself. What other car for £2k can you get heated seats, heated steering wheel, 30mpg, tow 3.5ton, all the bluetooth etc, no road noise, air suspension for offroading and being good on road. The parts arent even expensive, new airbag and strut is £130, height sensors £40ish, discs and pads like £250 all round.
I have yet to find something which betters them. We have 5 in the household now, 3x td6 and 2x tdv8. Admittedly one td6 is a spares car after it got wrote off in a crash due to being bent.
Slow said:
eltax91 said:
Love it slow! Was seriously considering a well sorted one when I bought my Disco 4 last year, in the end opted for the younger car with the SDV6 instead
I have to ask though, if you need rugged, tough, hard working vehicles to graft in the highlands, why not a jap pickup or a defender 110? Why the more expensive to fix RR's? If "because i can" then hats off to you sir!
I had a defender, for a few weeks before I hated it and got rid! We have had disco 1's, L200, toyota surf, shogun, isuzu trooper and nothing comes close for the same price.I have to ask though, if you need rugged, tough, hard working vehicles to graft in the highlands, why not a jap pickup or a defender 110? Why the more expensive to fix RR's? If "because i can" then hats off to you sir!
My ass is a big softy and loves the air suspension. Just last month I jumped in and drove to liverpool and back to get a car for a mate on the trailer. Putting 25k on one in a year is no bother - couldnt pay me to do that in a defender haha.
They are also cheap as chips to buy and run really. They are the biggest bargain on the roads if you can fix it yourself. What other car for £2k can you get heated seats, heated steering wheel, 30mpg, tow 3.5ton, all the bluetooth etc, no road noise, air suspension for offroading and being good on road. The parts arent even expensive, new airbag and strut is £130, height sensors £40ish, discs and pads like £250 all round.
I have yet to find something which betters them. We have 5 in the household now, 3x td6 and 2x tdv8. Admittedly one td6 is a spares car after it got wrote off in a crash due to being bent.
eltax91 said:
Slow said:
eltax91 said:
Love it slow! Was seriously considering a well sorted one when I bought my Disco 4 last year, in the end opted for the younger car with the SDV6 instead
I have to ask though, if you need rugged, tough, hard working vehicles to graft in the highlands, why not a jap pickup or a defender 110? Why the more expensive to fix RR's? If "because i can" then hats off to you sir!
I had a defender, for a few weeks before I hated it and got rid! We have had disco 1's, L200, toyota surf, shogun, isuzu trooper and nothing comes close for the same price.I have to ask though, if you need rugged, tough, hard working vehicles to graft in the highlands, why not a jap pickup or a defender 110? Why the more expensive to fix RR's? If "because i can" then hats off to you sir!
My ass is a big softy and loves the air suspension. Just last month I jumped in and drove to liverpool and back to get a car for a mate on the trailer. Putting 25k on one in a year is no bother - couldnt pay me to do that in a defender haha.
They are also cheap as chips to buy and run really. They are the biggest bargain on the roads if you can fix it yourself. What other car for £2k can you get heated seats, heated steering wheel, 30mpg, tow 3.5ton, all the bluetooth etc, no road noise, air suspension for offroading and being good on road. The parts arent even expensive, new airbag and strut is £130, height sensors £40ish, discs and pads like £250 all round.
I have yet to find something which betters them. We have 5 in the household now, 3x td6 and 2x tdv8. Admittedly one td6 is a spares car after it got wrote off in a crash due to being bent.
Mums is a tdv8, her boyfriend has a td6 (my first one) and the spare scrapper td6 (was a 220k mile shed so insurance buyback was pennys), I now have the tdv8 and td6 but will be selling off the td6 sadly.
Slow said:
eltax91 said:
Slow said:
eltax91 said:
Love it slow! Was seriously considering a well sorted one when I bought my Disco 4 last year, in the end opted for the younger car with the SDV6 instead
I have to ask though, if you need rugged, tough, hard working vehicles to graft in the highlands, why not a jap pickup or a defender 110? Why the more expensive to fix RR's? If "because i can" then hats off to you sir!
I had a defender, for a few weeks before I hated it and got rid! We have had disco 1's, L200, toyota surf, shogun, isuzu trooper and nothing comes close for the same price.I have to ask though, if you need rugged, tough, hard working vehicles to graft in the highlands, why not a jap pickup or a defender 110? Why the more expensive to fix RR's? If "because i can" then hats off to you sir!
My ass is a big softy and loves the air suspension. Just last month I jumped in and drove to liverpool and back to get a car for a mate on the trailer. Putting 25k on one in a year is no bother - couldnt pay me to do that in a defender haha.
They are also cheap as chips to buy and run really. They are the biggest bargain on the roads if you can fix it yourself. What other car for £2k can you get heated seats, heated steering wheel, 30mpg, tow 3.5ton, all the bluetooth etc, no road noise, air suspension for offroading and being good on road. The parts arent even expensive, new airbag and strut is £130, height sensors £40ish, discs and pads like £250 all round.
I have yet to find something which betters them. We have 5 in the household now, 3x td6 and 2x tdv8. Admittedly one td6 is a spares car after it got wrote off in a crash due to being bent.
Mums is a tdv8, her boyfriend has a td6 (my first one) and the spare scrapper td6 (was a 220k mile shed so insurance buyback was pennys), I now have the tdv8 and td6 but will be selling off the td6 sadly.
surveyor said:
They all rust like that....
It's not particularly expensive to get it well sorted.
That's a low mileage for turbo's to go.
All of ours have rust in the same places, its not very structural just looks poor.It's not particularly expensive to get it well sorted.
That's a low mileage for turbo's to go.
Yeh I was surprised at the mileage for them to have gone, FSH with main dealers and specialists the whole time. I guess just age/bad luck got them.
Slow said:
All of ours have rust in the same places, its not very structural just looks poor.
Yeh I was surprised at the mileage for them to have gone, FSH with main dealers and specialists the whole time. I guess just age/bad luck got them.
I’m a long time lurker inspired to look (again) at Range Rover’s by this thread. I’ve toyed with the idea in the past but was scared off by the horror stories and a lengthy commute. Working from home means it may now be practical though...Yeh I was surprised at the mileage for them to have gone, FSH with main dealers and specialists the whole time. I guess just age/bad luck got them.
Is there a typical mode of failure for the turbos? I have some experience with a Ford TDCI turbo from a similar era. The car would drop into limp home mode because the variable vanes in the turbo were coked up with soot; when the electronic actuator attempted to move the vanes it encountered resistance and dropped the car into limp mode. We removed the turbo, cleaned out the soot and freed off the vanes, and the car did another 80k miles before it was scrapped. A garage would likely just have recommended replacement of the turbo - I wonder if it’s a similar situation with this engine?
If the bearings or oil seals have gone a DIY fix is probably out of the question but I suppose if you can replace them for £700 it’s still not too bad!
HumphreyAppleby said:
Slow said:
All of ours have rust in the same places, its not very structural just looks poor.
Yeh I was surprised at the mileage for them to have gone, FSH with main dealers and specialists the whole time. I guess just age/bad luck got them.
I’m a long time lurker inspired to look (again) at Range Rover’s by this thread. I’ve toyed with the idea in the past but was scared off by the horror stories and a lengthy commute. Working from home means it may now be practical though...Yeh I was surprised at the mileage for them to have gone, FSH with main dealers and specialists the whole time. I guess just age/bad luck got them.
Is there a typical mode of failure for the turbos? I have some experience with a Ford TDCI turbo from a similar era. The car would drop into limp home mode because the variable vanes in the turbo were coked up with soot; when the electronic actuator attempted to move the vanes it encountered resistance and dropped the car into limp mode. We removed the turbo, cleaned out the soot and freed off the vanes, and the car did another 80k miles before it was scrapped. A garage would likely just have recommended replacement of the turbo - I wonder if it’s a similar situation with this engine?
If the bearings or oil seals have gone a DIY fix is probably out of the question but I suppose if you can replace them for £700 it’s still not too bad!
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