Sideman quits vile BBC
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This story is nuts is there not a thread on it?
BBC the biggest exporter of woke culture finds itself forced to apologise for apparent vile racism!?
Sideman quits Radio 1Xtra over BBC's use of racial slur
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53708991
BBC the biggest exporter of woke culture finds itself forced to apologise for apparent vile racism!?
Sideman quits Radio 1Xtra over BBC's use of racial slur
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53708991
The BBC's report was factually accurate, they repeated racial abuse used by the attacker. They also cleared it with the victim's family first, who were apparently keen for people to know exactly what had happened.
I'm not really sure the BBC needed to repeat the word myself, I'm not sure Sideman needed to quit, but then I'm not subject to racial abuse on a regular basis so it's not really my call.
I'm not really sure the BBC needed to repeat the word myself, I'm not sure Sideman needed to quit, but then I'm not subject to racial abuse on a regular basis so it's not really my call.
I think their initial defence before the inevitable apology is interesting.
Reminds me of the Naga Munchetty story around Trump and his "go home" comments when the BBC also had to do a u-turn.
This one was only ever going to end in an apology too.
David Lammy has just done an hour on it on LBC.
Reminds me of the Naga Munchetty story around Trump and his "go home" comments when the BBC also had to do a u-turn.
This one was only ever going to end in an apology too.
David Lammy has just done an hour on it on LBC.
Bill said:
What did they do that was racist?
AIUI they reported the precise words used by the perpetrator in a racist attack, and cleared it with the victim and his family before they did. How does that make the BBC racist?
I don't think it does. However, if Side-Man disagrees with the use of the word then he's within his rights to leave the organisation.AIUI they reported the precise words used by the perpetrator in a racist attack, and cleared it with the victim and his family before they did. How does that make the BBC racist?
Evanivitch said:
Bill said:
What did they do that was racist?
AIUI they reported the precise words used by the perpetrator in a racist attack, and cleared it with the victim and his family before they did. How does that make the BBC racist?
I don't think it does. However, if Side-Man disagrees with the use of the word then he's within his rights to leave the organisation.AIUI they reported the precise words used by the perpetrator in a racist attack, and cleared it with the victim and his family before they did. How does that make the BBC racist?
They have learned their lesson
I don't think that it is racist for a news organisation to factually report the news, particularly with the blessing of the victim's family of a racist attack.
However, did nobody pick up on the blatantly racist quote from Sideman in the BBC article?
However, did nobody pick up on the blatantly racist quote from Sideman in the BBC article?
Sideman in the BBC article said:
"But the BBC sanctioning the N-word being said on national television by a white person is something I can't rock with.
Discrimination on the grounds of skin colour is the basic definition of racism.gareth_r said:
I'll need some help in understanding how reporting racism is racist.
Imagine someone was insulted using the C word and the BBC actually used the C word when describing the verbal attack... AIUI the complaints were that the BBC used an insulting word not that they were being racist. Why Mr nobody has resigned is anybody's guess...gareth_r said:
I'll need xome help in understanding how reporting racism is racist.
Me too. But if the guy decided to quit I suppose it's up to him.By the way. the word "n****r" is used lots of times in this BBC programme about the pop group "The Real Thing".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000lj5v/eve...
Is that OK?
I think it is by the way. Bleeping out the word or forcing people to say "the N-word" is silly if the word is being used in a reasonable context. eg someone saying "In the 1970s, I used to be called a
". Vanden Saab said:
Imagine someone was insulted using the C word and the BBC actually used the C word when describing the verbal attack... AIUI the complaints were that the BBC used an insulting word not that they were being racist. Why Mr nobody has resigned is anybody's guess...
I’m not sure why he did maybe it was the final mail or he jumped before the hundreds of BBC redundancies happen and make a thing of it. Plenty of presenters on live TV have a have words slip out the classic Mr Hunt on R4 today followed by sniggering am for a very long time.
So said:
Who?
This^^^^How to try and make your name known, when it isn't (to the majority).
Plus, whoever he is, I think he's made a racist remark himself, hasn't he?
He apparently said that the Beeb sanctioning the N-word being said on nat. TV by a white person is something he couldn't 'rock with'.
Everyone's at it. I had a post removed from PH for saying there was a 'gap' in someone's armour. It's lucky I'm tee-total.
Just as well I bought a Seicento rather than its smaller-engined stablemate.
It's becoming bizarre. I'm not criticising PH - they're not the ones who should make a stand - but I do feel we should take our language back from those who want to feel self-satisfied. When I was in my late teens and early 20s, I knew everything as well. The word specific to this thread is obviously not one that is acceptable, but do me a favour with some of the other nonsense.
In my time, the acceptable word for explaining the specifics about someone who has mental problems has been changed at least five times, and always for the best possible reasons. But, it seems, all the people who decided on the non-current five were haters who didn't know what they were talking about, you know, just like the current ones who keep telling us what is acceptable and what is not.
Back when I was at college, one film that was praised because of the lead actor's attitude towards racism was Zulu. Baker was the son of a miner who was left wing, maybe communist in leanings, and his attitude to the extras was that they should be paid in the same way other extras were. Yet some youngster, with all the authority of being an undergradualte, decided the film should be banned. It was the first film that showed natives to be just like us and also where officers were played by people like me - common. Even common people were played by the posh. Attenborogh did little better than Dick van Dyke in Brighton Rock.
The world has always been weird. It seems to have got weirder with social media now, apparently, in control.
Just as well I bought a Seicento rather than its smaller-engined stablemate.
It's becoming bizarre. I'm not criticising PH - they're not the ones who should make a stand - but I do feel we should take our language back from those who want to feel self-satisfied. When I was in my late teens and early 20s, I knew everything as well. The word specific to this thread is obviously not one that is acceptable, but do me a favour with some of the other nonsense.
In my time, the acceptable word for explaining the specifics about someone who has mental problems has been changed at least five times, and always for the best possible reasons. But, it seems, all the people who decided on the non-current five were haters who didn't know what they were talking about, you know, just like the current ones who keep telling us what is acceptable and what is not.
Back when I was at college, one film that was praised because of the lead actor's attitude towards racism was Zulu. Baker was the son of a miner who was left wing, maybe communist in leanings, and his attitude to the extras was that they should be paid in the same way other extras were. Yet some youngster, with all the authority of being an undergradualte, decided the film should be banned. It was the first film that showed natives to be just like us and also where officers were played by people like me - common. Even common people were played by the posh. Attenborogh did little better than Dick van Dyke in Brighton Rock.
The world has always been weird. It seems to have got weirder with social media now, apparently, in control.
Mandat said:
I don't think that it is racist for a news organisation to factually report the news, particularly with the blessing of the victim's family of a racist attack.
However, did nobody pick up on the blatantly racist quote from Sideman in the BBC article?
Agreed but he isn't bright enough to understand, he and the vast majority seem to think racism is only white against blackHowever, did nobody pick up on the blatantly racist quote from Sideman in the BBC article?
Sideman in the BBC article said:
"But the BBC sanctioning the N-word being said on national television by a white person is something I can't rock with.
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