ZX Spectrum Next (issue 2) Kickstarter Now Live
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For anyone who was waiting around for another chance at a ZX Spectrum Next, the "issue 2" Kickstarter went live at 9pm this evening. By 9:09pm it had already hit it's target of 1000...
£300 for a non-accelerated one, £325 for accelerated. £10 cheaper if you buy 2.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spectrumnext/...
£300 for a non-accelerated one, £325 for accelerated. £10 cheaper if you buy 2.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spectrumnext/...
You would have to be wearing some extremely rose tinted spectacles to spend that much on playing Spectrum games.
It’s an interesting idea and I was a massive Spectrum fan back in the day, but you can get a raspberry pi running retropie and play everything from Spectrum, C64 right up to PS1 for a total outlay of about £50
It’s an interesting idea and I was a massive Spectrum fan back in the day, but you can get a raspberry pi running retropie and play everything from Spectrum, C64 right up to PS1 for a total outlay of about £50
matt666 said:
You would have to be wearing some extremely rose tinted spectacles to spend that much on playing Spectrum games.
It’s an interesting idea and I was a massive Spectrum fan back in the day, but you can get a raspberry pi running retropie and play everything from Spectrum, C64 right up to PS1 for a total outlay of about £50
It’s an interesting idea and I was a massive Spectrum fan back in the day, but you can get a raspberry pi running retropie and play everything from Spectrum, C64 right up to PS1 for a total outlay of about £50
Zad said:
You can download a free emulator for the PC, that's how the software was developed pre-launch. And yet way over 1000 people still want the actual hardware. Don't forget, this is the 2nd tranche, the original Next has been out some time, so people know exactly what they are getting.
It’s way more than a Pi emulator though isn’t it? Look at the attention to detail in the design of the Spectrum+ / QL keyboard for example. It’s lovely. I’m in. Am I missing something here?
I paid £100 for a Raspberry Pi with 2 controllers and an emulator system containing thousands of games.
I’m not sure how many thousands of games, quite possibly over 10,000. But loads basically.
All the consoles, all the arcade machines, all the computer systems... Amstrad, Spectrum, Amiga, Commodore, Acorn, etc
It is literally endless, and it’s all just plug straight in and play.
I have no idea why you wouldn’t just go and buy a Raspberry Pi if you wanted retro gaming.
I totally agree with those who say ‘rose tinted spectacles’. I couldn’t wait to turn on my Pi and play some Spectrum and Amstrad games.... I quickly realised how awful they were. Far, far worse than I ever remembered!
I moved onto Amiga games, and found them to be decent. But still not quite as good as I remembered from my childhood.
I still play loads of the arcade games and suchlike, and it was well worth the £100, but there’s no way I would pay more than that for a fraction of the games.
I paid £100 for a Raspberry Pi with 2 controllers and an emulator system containing thousands of games.
I’m not sure how many thousands of games, quite possibly over 10,000. But loads basically.
All the consoles, all the arcade machines, all the computer systems... Amstrad, Spectrum, Amiga, Commodore, Acorn, etc
It is literally endless, and it’s all just plug straight in and play.
I have no idea why you wouldn’t just go and buy a Raspberry Pi if you wanted retro gaming.
I totally agree with those who say ‘rose tinted spectacles’. I couldn’t wait to turn on my Pi and play some Spectrum and Amstrad games.... I quickly realised how awful they were. Far, far worse than I ever remembered!
I moved onto Amiga games, and found them to be decent. But still not quite as good as I remembered from my childhood.
I still play loads of the arcade games and suchlike, and it was well worth the £100, but there’s no way I would pay more than that for a fraction of the games.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 11th August 22:52
You aren't missing anything. It isn't for you, move along and realise that there are people who it _is_ for. Nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head here. Nobody is making claims that aren't factual, or deceiving anyone. The product is well defined, widely reviewed and supported. It is what it is. If it isn't for you, then that's absolutely fine.
Think of it this way - All those people who have 1980s, 70s, 60s, 50s...etc cars? The s
t ones with carburettors, rust, vinyl seats, rust, 30hp engines and even more rust? Cars that cost a few hundred quid even when they were new, but thousands to keep going? Ones that struggle to do 60mph, have drum brakes all round? The ones that people really enjoy, simply because they do? Some of those people would probably quite like a brand new version of their old car - maybe with a few modern bits like disc brakes and fuel injection, but essentially the same car to drive to the seaside on a Sunday with a picnic. The Next isn't software emulation, the FPGA runs a Z80 and copy of the hardware ULA, albeit expanded with more facilities and extra speed.
Think of it as a bit more like Project Binky. In objective terms it makes no sense at all, and yet there it is, and many of us would really like one.
Think of it this way - All those people who have 1980s, 70s, 60s, 50s...etc cars? The s
t ones with carburettors, rust, vinyl seats, rust, 30hp engines and even more rust? Cars that cost a few hundred quid even when they were new, but thousands to keep going? Ones that struggle to do 60mph, have drum brakes all round? The ones that people really enjoy, simply because they do? Some of those people would probably quite like a brand new version of their old car - maybe with a few modern bits like disc brakes and fuel injection, but essentially the same car to drive to the seaside on a Sunday with a picnic. The Next isn't software emulation, the FPGA runs a Z80 and copy of the hardware ULA, albeit expanded with more facilities and extra speed.Think of it as a bit more like Project Binky. In objective terms it makes no sense at all, and yet there it is, and many of us would really like one.
LeadFarmer said:
Do you have a link to where you bought yours as I quite fancy getting one for all those games
I got my RetroPie Infinity 64GB via here: https://www.arcadepunks.com/pi-images-downloads-pa...www.Monsterjoysticks.com Sell "proper" arcade joystick units, and places like www.pimoroni.com sell things like the Picade which integrate a small screen, Pi and joysticks in one unit.
miniman said:
It’s way more than a Pi emulator though isn’t it? Look at the attention to detail in the design of the Spectrum+ / QL keyboard for example. It’s lovely. I’m in.
As one of the 17 people who bought a Sinclair QL back in the day (when Sinclair was going bust so WHSmith were flogging QLs cheap), I learned what "built to a budget" meant. Lovely is not a word I'd have chosen at the time for the keyboard. I was happy enough with the machine, but it was what it was.I had no idea the Z80 was still in use. It's almost as old as I am.
Edited by ATG on Wednesday 12th August 02:42
Has anyone done something similar with the BBC computer?. I know the BBC model B was twice the price of the Spectrum but it was certainly more than twice the machine.
From memory the BBC was better designed in every way, the only thing the Spectrum had going for it was that price and the extra 16k of memory.
From memory the BBC was better designed in every way, the only thing the Spectrum had going for it was that price and the extra 16k of memory.
272BHP said:
Has anyone done something similar with the BBC computer?. I know the BBC model B was twice the price of the Spectrum but it was certainly more than twice the machine.
From memory the BBC was better designed in every way, the only thing the Spectrum had going for it was that price and the extra 16k of memory.
Yes and no.From memory the BBC was better designed in every way, the only thing the Spectrum had going for it was that price and the extra 16k of memory.
MiSTer link
Yes = An FPGA computer which has a shedload of different 'cores' available including BBC.
No = it's not a retro homage, it looks just like a raspberry pi.
If you are happy with emulation, then a Raspberry pi, RISC OS & !BeebIt might work for you...
ATG said:
As one of the 17 people who bought a Sinclair QL back in the day (when Sinclair was going bust so WHSmith were flogging QLs cheap), I learned what "built to a budget" meant. Lovely is not a word I'd have chosen at the time for the keyboard. I was happy enough with the machine, but it was what it was.
I never really used a QL much, but from memory the keyboard was a step up from the ZX rubber keys. Which is not saying much, granted 
272BHP said:
Has anyone done something similar with the BBC computer?. I know the BBC model B was twice the price of the Spectrum but it was certainly more than twice the machine.
From memory the BBC was better designed in every way, the only thing the Spectrum had going for it was that price and the extra 16k of memory.
The Beebem emulator on Windows is so good and the attention to detail is mind blowing... if your a BBC Micro fan that is. It also supports the 6502, Z80 & torch second processors, Econet and all the |BBC Micro variations etc etc..From memory the BBC was better designed in every way, the only thing the Spectrum had going for it was that price and the extra 16k of memory.
Back to the Speccy... I like the design of it but cant think of any reason why I would buy one. Didn't they do the same with the Commodore 64 ?? no idea how that went.
Where did they get the Z80 processors for it ?
Edited by Hedobot on Saturday 15th August 17:16
citizensm1th said:
so if someone was to have a working spectrum with a 16k expansion board attached what would that be worth?
The Spectrum never had a 16K expansion board as far as I'm aware. You could get a 16K RAM Pack for the ZX81, but the Speccy came from the factory with 16K or 48K. You could upgrade the 16K to 48K which involved taking the machine apart and inserting RAM chips.Edited by 48k on Saturday 15th August 20:54
48k said:
citizensm1th said:
so if someone was to have a working spectrum with a 16k expansion board attached what would that be worth?
The Spectrum never had a 16K expansion board as far as I'm aware. You could get a 16K RAM Pack for the ZX81, but the Speccy came from the factory with 16K or 48K.both still work as far as i know to.
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