Two NATO countries in the East Med facing off
Two NATO countries in the East Med facing off
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Chester35

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505 posts

79 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Slightly gone under the radar but

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53262725

and now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53767792

Should Turkey actually be part of NATO? They have already caused issues with Air to surface missiles bought from Russia and had F35 plane stoppages, they are pro Russian as long as it suits their interest. Which basically is being a local super power over the local lesser nations.

The Ottoman empire in August 2020. With natural resources at stake, just adds to it, everyone wants a bit of the pie.

Will be interesting to follow. The number of countries with fingers in the pie in Libya is shocking, cannot be good for the locals. Who cared about the locals though, check out Yemen. Shut up and put up with it. that Civil war has been going on since France and UK air bombed until "rebels" won and Ghadaffi dead and then washed their hands. Now we have 6 other countries picking at the remains....






Earthdweller

18,110 posts

150 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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It’s certainly interesting, and worrying

We have a power play taking place with Erdogan trying to extend Turkey’s position in the Eastern Med

The gas exploration is part of that projection

Claiming the Turkish continental shelf which extends almost to Crete and Cyprus as Turkish water is very similar to China claiming the the South China Sea

Erdogan is claiming the waters around a Greek island are Turkish because they are only a few km from the Turkish coast and hundreds from Athens

Now we have Macron sending French military units to face off the Turks

Definitely concerning

Countdown

47,697 posts

220 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Is what Turkey is doing in Libya any different to what the UK or the French did?

I don't think it is and therefore it's a bit difficult if not hypocritical to criticise him.

Earthdweller

18,110 posts

150 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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As ever it’s not simple laugh

France and Turkey seemingly support different gangs in Libya and Turkey lighting up a French warship hasn’t helped when it went to interdict a suspected arms running ship whilst on a NATO anti smuggling mission

But what’s going on at the moment is a dispute between Turkey and Greece over who controls what part of the continental shelf

France has waded in in the side of Greece, possibly because it’s pissed off at Turkey

Whatever, seemingly we now have three NATO country’s flexing military might at each other which I don’t think is in the masterplan somehow

hidetheelephants

34,147 posts

217 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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The pair of them have been squabbling with each other long before they joined NATO and will continue to squabble, especially because Turkey is lead by a bellicose nativist bellend. NATO is best off ignoring it providing no-one is stupid enough to start shooting.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

161 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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so i take it turkey will not be joining the EU anytime soon then?

Oakey

27,970 posts

240 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Speaking of Greece, it seems they've been taking tips from the PH migrant thread:

https://www.insider.com/migrants-abandoned-at-sea-...

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

183 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Oakey said:
Speaking of Greece, it seems they've been taking tips from the PH migrant thread:

https://www.insider.com/migrants-abandoned-at-sea-...
Did the migrants claim asylum? - If NO. Good! Hopefully word will soon spread.
Did the migrants claim asylum? - If YES. That terrible!