Anyone have experience with z4 superchargers
Anyone have experience with z4 superchargers
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james280779

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1,931 posts

259 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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as above , looking at a rotrex supercharger kit for my 2.5 z4. Apparently 300 bhp and virtually silent over stock engine. Anyone done this upgrade?

Mines completely.stock and in 9/10 condition but just a tiny bit slow as I'm used to 911, tvr and esprit turbo

Thanks.

james280779

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259 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a Z4M instead?

That kit is probably $7k USD by the time they've shipped it to Oz, then you've either got to find someone prepared to try and remap the MS43, or another management kit in as well, all for not that much gain it would seem.

Mr Tidy

31,651 posts

157 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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There are a couple of people on z4forum who have supercharged M54 engines in their Z4s, but from what I remember they had 3.0is.

I know there aren't too many Z4s to choose from in Oz/NZ but like Krikkit has suggested I think I'd put the money towards getting a Z4M then you'd get about 340bhp, not to mention hydraulic PAS and an LSD as well.

And if that doesn't feel enough you could always supercharge the S54! laugh

james280779

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259 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Thanks but ill be all in with vehicle purchase (as stated excellent condition and manual) and the supercharger kit including fitting for less than one third of the price of the cheapest rough z4m. Apparently the 2.5 will have higher performance (more torque less overall hp) than a standard m. I know brakes will need upgrading too but I prefer sleepers, I want to keep it looking absolute stock standard .

The kit is based in Australia and even in the same state so no issues with covid, under 8k aud fitted

Speed1283

1,199 posts

125 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Head to the Z4 Forum

I used to be a member on there and its a good forum with a number of members who have had supercharger conversions (but as noted above by a previous poster, I think most where based on the 3.0 engine), although this link is for the 2.5 (the older 2.5 I think): https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22400

If you were thinking of doing it will you also be upgrading the brakes to the 3.0 brakes or an LSD?

james280779

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Monday 24th August 2020
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The company that sell the kit also.do a matching custom brake upgrade so I'll probably just get the whole lot done there. I'm in no rush to get it done and doing my research first.

I've upgraded and rebuilt virtually every car I've had , this one will be fairly mild in comparison to some others ive done

motoroller

657 posts

203 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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At $8k I'd be tempted to find someone to shoehorn an M62 (or even N62) into it. I don't know how readily available or cheap those engines are in your neck of the woods, but it'd make for something really special. I've had 4 Z4s in the correct order (2.0i, 2.5i, 3.0si and now Alpina Roadster S) and I've always missed the V8 woofle / poor-mans Z8 vibe.

How much would an S54 / S62 / S65 set you back? The S54 would likely be the cheapest and easiest.

A supercharger is also a great goal, as the M54 is quite reliable.

dhutch

17,887 posts

227 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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And superchargers are seriously cool.....

james280779

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Monday 24th August 2020
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Currently in Australia on the usual websites.

S54 - 0 for sale
S62 - 0 for sale
S65 - 2 for sale both around 15k plus freight from the other end of the country. So I reckon I'd be looking at around 25k fitted minimum



james280779

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Monday 24th August 2020
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Krikkit said:
Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a Z4M instead?

That kit is probably $7k USD by the time they've shipped it to Oz, then you've either got to find someone prepared to try and remap the MS43, or another management kit in as well, all for not that much gain it would seem.
120 bhp extra with no other mods 'not much gain' ?

james280779

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259 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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motoroller said:
At $8k I'd be tempted to find someone to shoehorn an M62 (or even N62) into it. I don't know how readily available or cheap those engines are in your neck of the woods, but it'd make for something really special. I've had 4 Z4s in the correct order (2.0i, 2.5i, 3.0si and now Alpina Roadster S) and I've always missed the V8 woofle / poor-mans Z8 vibe.

How much would an S54 / S62 / S65 set you back? The S54 would likely be the cheapest and easiest.

A supercharger is also a great goal, as the M54 is quite reliable.
Looking at the m62 (I had already considered it) apparently it makes 290 bhp if you manage to find the later updated version, that's still less than the 2.5 supercharged and considerably more money before you consider modding. At that amount of extra money I'd be looking for another 911 or tvr and selling this.

I don't need super bhp , just want more than it has. Even supercharging it will.still have cost me half as much including purchase than a 3.0. They are that rare

aka_kerrly

12,506 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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That kit seems a bit pricey when you consider you can buy the supercharger from Rotrex for $2000USD / £1800GBP which includes oil tank, oil lines, pulley.

The most important part of the kit you are looking at is the bracket to attach the charger , the intercooler & piperwork could easily be sourced elsewhere.

Here is an example of a bracket from another supplier that will do the job for 350 Euro
https://www.schaper-automotive.com/products/en/Sho...

i reckon you could put your own kit together and source a standalone ECU for less than the American solution

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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james280779 said:
Krikkit said:
Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a Z4M instead?

That kit is probably $7k USD by the time they've shipped it to Oz, then you've either got to find someone prepared to try and remap the MS43, or another management kit in as well, all for not that much gain it would seem.
120 bhp extra with no other mods 'not much gain' ?
120hp is plenty more power, but you'll also need an LSD, better brakes, possibly suspension upgrades as well to make it a rounded package. That's for me anyway, a straight-line hero isn't that much fun imo.

Plus the expense of sorting management, mapping and tuning etc, added insurance costs.

From a UK perspective it doesn't make much sense, but obviously that's different in Oz.

Ultimately it'll hinge on how good your mapper is imo.

ETA: The above post is also very true.

Edited by Krikkit on Thursday 27th August 14:58

james280779

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Sunday 30th August 2020
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Suspension is good enough, i don't have the sport package so i have more ground clearance. This is essential where I live due to the rain. It handles well enough for what I want , its not getting tracked. Same for the brakes im running standard but with ceramic pads. I won't be going faster most of the time anyway just a bit more acceleration, I'm a well trained response driver so fairly confident of dealing with anything that comes my way. The z4 is a good package anyway and doesn't need much work to be honest if you really know how to drive it