Bad parking - am i a snitch?
Bad parking - am i a snitch?
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fido

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18,897 posts

284 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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A van driver down my road occaionally swaps his works vehicle with his own car (which is odd in itself) and dumps it on random spots along our road. Mostly outside his own house but recently he's started to park it between driveways which is getting on the nerves of some of the residents. Sometimes this results in the van being parked slightly over a double yellow. Is this something you can get parking enforcement to deal with? I don't like the idea of getting someone ticketed but in this case the driver is also being a nuisance to residents.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

199 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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fido said:
A van driver down my road occaionally swaps his works vehicle with his own car (which is odd in itself) and dumps it on random spots along our road. Mostly outside his own house but recently he's started to park it between driveways which is getting on the nerves of some of the residents. Sometimes this results in the van being parked slightly over a double yellow. Is this something you can get parking enforcement to deal with? I don't like the idea of getting someone ticketed but in this case the driver is also being a nuisance to residents.
Is it parked over someones drive?

Is it parked close to a junction?

SmoothCriminal

5,939 posts

228 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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Yes if the wheel is on the double yellow they will ticket it if its council's jurisdiction, it just depends if they will come out for it.

Aaron702

68 posts

93 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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Sometimes it's on a double-yellow? Grounds for a ticket, but just because it's parked between two driveways and you don't like it being there tough luck. This curtain-twitching mentality of people policing parking outside their own houses is ridiculous. You do not own and have no right to the space outside your house.

Jarcy

1,559 posts

304 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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fido said:
Is this something you can get parking enforcement to deal with? I don't like the idea of getting someone ticketed but in this case the driver is also being a nuisance to residents.
The perfect way to destroy neighbourly relations is to snitch on them before actually talking to them about it.
Your choice.

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

142 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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Is he making it impossible to get on and off the drive? if not nothing will happen. If hes making it genuinely difficult or impossible to access your drive then fair enough, he is being inconsiderate and deserves everything he gets.

Round my way there is a local new build estate with "No van" covenant on it, so the morons who bought there without reading the small print dump their vans on surrounding local roads. Had a couple of "regulars" dump vans on my street. One parked his just over edge of drive so I have to do like a 4 point jiggle back and forth to get out. Then some retard decided he would park his van opposite my drive making it physically impossible to get out. Council wern't interested so I basically nuisance called the one opposite my driveway as he was a self employed tradesman with personal number on the side of van. He told me to fk off so he got called at all hours of the night for a week until he decided it wasn't worth the hassle and parked elsewhere.

The other van started parking elsewhere after I dumped an old car I am waiting to trade in, in the same spot for the whole of lockdown. No sign of him nearby and he now parks on a less busy street else where (seen it driving past).

fido

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18,897 posts

284 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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Alucidnation said:
Is it parked over someones drive?

Is it parked close to a junction?
Yes, it's parked slightly over driveways, though it's more the issue that it is so close to them (this is a 7.5 tonner) that it makes it difficult for residents to pull out of their driveways. Nobody seems to know the family/individuals so there won't be any loss of neighbourly-ness - only seem one interaction with them when a neighbour left a note on his car for parking about a foot over their driveway - so seems to be one of these inconsiderate types. Anyway, someone finally got through to the council and they are sending the warden round.


Edited by fido on Friday 21st August 14:08

Tommo87

5,457 posts

142 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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Aaron702 said:
Sometimes it's on a double-yellow? Grounds for a ticket, but just because it's parked between two driveways and you don't like it being there tough luck. This curtain-twitching mentality of people policing parking outside their own houses is ridiculous. You do not own and have no right to the space outside your house.
When you take that tin foil hat off, give yourself a shake and check your FOTL manual under the heading of 'Blindingly Obvious Facts'..

It clearly states that nobody has the right to that space - including the van driver.

Tommo87

5,457 posts

142 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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Psycho Warren said:
Is he making it impossible to get on and off the drive? if not nothing will happen. If hes making it genuinely difficult or impossible to access your drive then fair enough, he is being inconsiderate and deserves everything he gets.

Round my way there is a local new build estate with "No van" covenant on it, so the morons who bought there without reading the small print dump their vans on surrounding local roads. Had a couple of "regulars" dump vans on my street. One parked his just over edge of drive so I have to do like a 4 point jiggle back and forth to get out. Then some retard decided he would park his van opposite my drive making it physically impossible to get out. Council wern't interested so I basically nuisance called the one opposite my driveway as he was a self employed tradesman with personal number on the side of van. He told me to fk off so he got called at all hours of the night for a week until he decided it wasn't worth the hassle and parked elsewhere.

The other van started parking elsewhere after I dumped an old car I am waiting to trade in, in the same spot for the whole of lockdown. No sign of him nearby and he now parks on a less busy street else where (seen it driving past).
Maybe the Op's neighbours should just park a car there then.

Although, I suspect the van driver will have a moan about his unreasonable neighbours.



Sheepshanks

40,990 posts

148 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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Vans shouldn't be parked on residential streets unless they're there doing work.

NGee

2,935 posts

193 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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fido said:
A van driver down my road occaionally swaps his works vehicle with his own car (which is odd in itself) and dumps it on random spots along our road. Mostly outside his own house but recently he's started to park it between driveways which is getting on the nerves of some of the residents. Sometimes this results in the van being parked slightly over a double yellow. Is this something you can get parking enforcement to deal with? I don't like the idea of getting someone ticketed but in this case the driver is also being a nuisance to residents.
Only one van? Wow, aren't you the lucky one!

Most companies that have vans want the driver to take them home as it saves them having to supply overnight parking. As most companies also don't allow the drivers to use the vans for social (out of hours) use then it's not surprising that most van drivers have their own car. Not sure why you find this odd.

This of course does cause other problems and mean lots of houses have more vehicles than they need/want and is why nearly all housing estates have vans parked all over them. Since accountants have worked out that the smaller the road the more houses they can cram in, the situation is only going to get worse.

OP, if you get rid of this van the space will only be filled by another one and that driver might not be so considerate and park completely across your drive! I'd be very careful what you wish for!!

fido

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18,897 posts

284 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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NGee said:
[Most companies that have vans want the driver to take them home as it saves them having to supply overnight parking. As most companies also don't allow the drivers to use the vans for social (out of hours) use then it's not surprising that most van drivers have their own car. Not sure why you find this odd.
Because he swaps it with his own car - would you hapilly leave your 320D estate in a works car park so that you can park a 7.5 tonne in your neighbourhood? If someone left their OWN transit van e.g. 'NGee's Audio Visual Services' outside that's a different issue - personally I would not be annoyed by this - just to clarify the difference. The space outside my own easily fits a large SUV / transit - that's fine.


Edited by fido on Friday 21st August 14:57

dibblecorse

7,599 posts

221 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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Sheepshanks said:
Vans shouldn't be parked on residential streets unless they're there doing work.
So where is John / Jane the self employed plumber that lives in a 2 up 2 down with no driveway or garage meant to park his / her van ?

There are thousands of vans parked on residential streets all over the UK ...

andburg

8,732 posts

198 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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i wouldn't call 7.5t a van!

business may have parking but even if they have, how close to business is he? even at 15 minutes away dpending on his direction of travel for that day that's potentially an hour for him to commute each day just to pick it up and drop it off.

Local recovery place has a fleet of 7.5t ramps, theyre regularly parked on the streets around driver's houses because they get called at all hours and don't want that hassle at 3am

I think taxi's co's have to show they have off road parking for their fleets but don't know if this applies to trucks.

Sheepshanks

40,990 posts

148 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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dibblecorse said:
...self employed plumber that lives in a 2 up 2 down...
Give over.

dibblecorse said:
There are thousands of vans parked on residential streets all over the UK ...
Exactly.

s2sol

1,276 posts

200 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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If it's a goods vehicle over 3.5 tonnes, it should be based at an operating centre when not in use. I'd get the operator and vehicle details and call DVSA to see what they suggest. They may well take enforcement action against the operator.

NGee

2,935 posts

193 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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fido said:
Because he swaps it with his own car - would you hapilly leave your 320D estate in a works car park so that you can park a van in your neighbourhood?
Yes, occasionally if I had a private job to do over the weekend, or an early start and didn't want to go to the yard, etc, etc,

BUT you didn't say it was a 7.5 tonner! You just called it a van!! So, no, I wouldn't park a 7.5 tonner in the neighbourhood and if s2sol's post is correct then it's not legal either.



fido

Original Poster:

18,897 posts

284 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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Fair enough. I always wondered if it was a van or a lorry. When i’m moving house it’s a moving van(?). Anyway has been reported.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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s2sol said:
If it's a goods vehicle over 3.5 tonnes, it should be based at an operating centre when not in use. I'd get the operator and vehicle details and call DVSA to see what they suggest. They may well take enforcement action against the operator.
And within many areas you may have this on the boundary as a catch all sign so it can be ticketed etc.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

199 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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dibblecorse said:
Sheepshanks said:
Vans shouldn't be parked on residential streets unless they're there doing work.
So where is John / Jane the self employed plumber that lives in a 2 up 2 down with no driveway or garage meant to park his / her van ?

There are thousands of vans parked on residential streets all over the UK ...
Indeed, and he hasn't told you he lives in a terrace with no parking.


What an absolute bell.

rofl


Edited by Alucidnation on Saturday 22 August 11:43