718 GT4 Clubsport - cost/residual question?
718 GT4 Clubsport - cost/residual question?
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finmac

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1,685 posts

261 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Clubsport is so expensive now (£2700) I suspect many cars won’t be spec’d with it unless they are going to be used very regular on track. Most extras depreciate significantly when a car is registered but suspect CS may remain highly desirable long term and as such Interested in What people’s thoughts are re where CS equipped cars will be in future pecking order/more saleable and still worth the thick end of the extra cost outlay when new or not?

MannyLon

2,025 posts

229 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Spec what you need and like, not for future retail. I’ve ordered CS as I like the extra safety and rigidity. I’ll use the car for WE and occasional track use.

finmac

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1,685 posts

261 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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MannyLon said:
Spec what you need and like, not for future retail. I’ve ordered CS as I like the extra safety and rigidity. I’ll use the car for WE and occasional track use.
I am spec’ing what I like and I like CS But my point is that it’s a lot of £ now and wonder if that’s just going to be “gone” or possibly provide a future upside

Terminator X

19,600 posts

227 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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When I'm searching for Porsche in the classifieds I use "clubsport" as a key word, wouldn't entertain all the namby pamby non CS cars myself!

TX.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

127 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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finmac said:
I am spec’ing what I like and I like CS But my point is that it’s a lot of £ now and wonder if that’s just going to be “gone” or possibly provide a future upside
Assume it will be gone, if it's not at the time you sell then see it as a bonus.

av185

20,464 posts

150 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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The 981 doesn't carry a major premium over cost for cs and doubtful whether the 718 will either.

Added to that the disadvantages with extra weight and creak/pings plus the rip off cost and unless you track regularly def not worth it imo but as others had said spec whats right for you. Depends how long you intend to keep the car too.

Interestingly Walter Rohrl reckoned the cage upset the balance of the 981 GT4 not that most of us lesser driving gods would notice but food for thought and another minus overall nontheless.

julian987R

6,840 posts

82 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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finmac said:
MannyLon said:
Spec what you need and like, not for future retail. I’ve ordered CS as I like the extra safety and rigidity. I’ll use the car for WE and occasional track use.
I am spec’ing what I like and I like CS But my point is that it’s a lot of £ now and wonder if that’s just going to be “gone” or possibly provide a future upside
still doesn't sound like you are speccing it for you. Its obvious it wont be a long term keeper, so you are speccing it for appeal of the next purchaser, not you.


Rojibo

1,747 posts

100 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Haven’t actually thought about it, I specced the CS package because I wanted the extra theatre in the car with the harnesses, and it will be regularly tracked. Just feel it makes the car a bit more special.

I always expect to lose money on new car purchases, if I don’t lose any here, great, if I do, well that’s just the price of the fun I’ve had in it.

MannyLon

2,025 posts

229 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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av185 said:
The 981 doesn't carry a major premium over cost for cs and doubtful whether the 718 will either.

Added to that the disadvantages with extra weight and creak/pings plus the rip off cost and unless you track regularly def not worth it imo but as others had said spec whats right for you. Depends how long you intend to keep the car too.

Interestingly Walter Rohrl reckoned the cage upset the balance of the 981 GT4 not that most of us lesser driving gods would notice but food for thought and another minus overall nontheless.
Would like to read the Walter comments, link please?

av185

20,464 posts

150 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Haven't got one and haven't time to dig it out atm just google it plenty on past PH981 GT4 threads when we were speccing them up 2015 2016.

MannyLon

2,025 posts

229 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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av185 said:
Haven't got one and haven't time to dig it out atm just google it plenty on past PH981 GT4 threads when we were speccing them up 2015 2016.
Thanks

EvoSid

1,116 posts

86 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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finmac said:
Clubsport is so expensive now (£2700) I suspect many cars won’t be spec’d with it unless they are going to be used very regular on track. Most extras depreciate significantly when a car is registered but suspect CS may remain highly desirable long term and as such Interested in What people’s thoughts are re where CS equipped cars will be in future pecking order/more saleable and still worth the thick end of the extra cost outlay when new or not?
As a buyer looking at used Gt4 cars I am not bothered if it has CS or not. If it does then I would be happy to buy it and maybe pay a small premium of up to £500 for it
But the rest of the spec must be good as well

Not like this one, which is now know as the jellytot spec due to interior colour choice

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202008032...



Edited by EvoSid on Sunday 23 August 01:37

julian987R

6,840 posts

82 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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EvoSid said:
As a buyer looking at used Gt4 cars I am not bothered if it has CS or not. If it does then I would be happy to buy it and maybe pay a small premium of up to £500 for it
But the rest of the spec must be good as well

Not like this one, which is now know as the jellytot spec due to interior colour choice

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202008032...

Edited by EvoSid on Sunday 23 August 01:37
Love the jellytot spec. Got bags of personality and fun in the cabin.

EvoSid

1,116 posts

86 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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julian987R said:
Love the jellytot spec. Got bags of personality and fun in the cabin.
It is starting to grow on me and it is a cheap car for what it is

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

288 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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EvoSid said:
It is starting to grow on me and it is a cheap car for what it is
it's over list ?

there are cars £4k below list now. and there is zero point in a comfort spec car now the GTS has the 4.0l engine.

EvoSid

1,116 posts

86 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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Porsche911R said:
it's over list ?

there are cars £4k below list now. and there is zero point in a comfort spec car now the GTS has the 4.0l engine.
That was my worry surely if you want a GT4 it MUST have Buckets.
What cars are below list by £4K. I really struggle to work out what list as so can have so many options

EvoSid

1,116 posts

86 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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911R
This is the cheapest one I have found with buckets , I think it is below list but I may be wrong
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006170...

finmac

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1,685 posts

261 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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EvoSid said:
911R
This is the cheapest one I have found with buckets , I think it is below list but I may be wrong
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006170...
Buckets and CS - so probs around list. Mind you it’s a 2019 so amazingly will soon be “2 years old” wink

Rojibo

1,747 posts

100 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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EvoSid said:
911R
This is the cheapest one I have found with buckets , I think it is below list but I may be wrong
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006170...
Yeah, it's a couple of grand under list that. OPC Sheffield currently have three in stock, don't seem to be selling, was having a nose around that car when I went to place my GT4 order.

I think they'll still hold value well, its just that the flipper market may be dead. (Good, always hated price gouging).

EvoSid

1,116 posts

86 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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Rojibo said:
Yeah, it's a couple of grand under list that. OPC Sheffield currently have three in stock, don't seem to be selling, was having a nose around that car when I went to place my GT4 order.

I think they'll still hold value well, its just that the flipper market may be dead. (Good, always hated price gouging).
So did you manage to order a new one ?