Mk5 vs Mk6 GTI?

[Mark300zx]

There is very little price difference these days, is this an indication of the Mk5 being a better car or something else?

[Baldchap]

MkV has the kudos of being the car that brought back the GTI badge, largely because everything since the MkII was rubbish.

The VI is a facelift on the MkV, largely. No great leaps forward, just minor tweaks.

If you can stretch to a VII, it's the same jump we saw from IV to V again.

[TonyTony]

MK6 has the newer TSI engine which is a better engine. More power, torque and more fuel efficiency.

[kambites]

The mk6 is basically a mild facelift of the mk5 rather than an all new model so it's not really surprising that prices are pretty similar.

The mk6 swapped from a cambelt for the main valve-train drive to a chain which had issues with its tensioner failing catastrophically which has given it a reputation for poor reliability. I think there's an upgraded part available which fixes the issue but you'd want to make sure it's been done. It's a better engine apart from that problem, but I guess that issue looms large in the collective memory of the market.

[kambites]

Baldchap said:

If you can stretch to a VII, it's the same jump we saw from IV to V again.

There's a far bigger difference between the 6 and 7 than between the 5 and 6. The 7 was based on an all new platform (the first Golf to use MQB).

[TonyTony]

kambites said:

The mk6 is basically a mild facelift of the mk5 rather than an all new model so it's not really surprising that prices are pretty similar.

The mk6 swapped from a cambelt for the main valve-train drive to a chain which had issues with its tensioner failing catastrophically which has given it a reputation for poor reliability. I think there's an upgraded part available which fixes the issue but you'd want to make sure it's been done. It's a better engine apart from that problem, but I guess that issue looms large in the collective memory of the market.

It was mid 2012 TSI that had the tensioner problems, after that they were updated.

[Baldchap]

kambites said:

Baldchap said:

If you can stretch to a VII, it's the same jump we saw from IV to V again.

There's a far bigger difference between the 6 and 7 than between the 5 and 6. The 7 was based on an all new platform (the first Golf to use MQB).

I know. Read it again.

[DaveyBoyWonder]

I've owned a mk5 and spent time in a mk6. If you had two side by side with similar mileage and spec I'd go for a mk6. The mk5 is a brilliant car though - I've regretted getting rid of ours but the mk6 seems to be far rarer. Seem mk5s and mk7 GTIs all the time. When was the last time you saw more than a handful of mk6s over the course of a month?

The one thing I read though was weren't early TSI engines in the Golfs prone to some kind of issue?

[Xcore]

Youl get an edition30 for the same price as a mk6 gti.


Or save for a mk7

[Pistonheader101]

Good cars

[PomBstard]

I’ve not driven a Mk5 but didn’t really get on with the Mk6 we had for three years. Warning lights were often on, being a 2011 car the timing chain tensioner was an expensive job, and it never felt exciting to drive. It never really fitted me either in that I always felt like I was sitting on the car rather than in it, with the seat too high and gear stick a bit too far forwards. Brake feel was non-existent too.

I’d look for something different, but others like ‘em so take each for a drive.

[Pistonheader101]

PomBstard said:

I’ve not driven a Mk5 but didn’t really get on with the Mk6 we had for three years. Warning lights were often on, being a 2011 car the timing chain tensioner was an expensive job, and it never felt exciting to drive. It never really fitted me either in that I always felt like I was sitting on the car rather than in it, with the seat too high and gear stick a bit too far forwards. Brake feel was non-existent too.

I’d look for something different, but others like ‘em so take each for a drive.

Sounds like a megane cup would be more up your street

[MDMA .]

TonyTony said:

MK6 has the newer TSI engine which is a better engine. More power, torque and more fuel efficiency.

The ED35 has the older EA113 engine, not the EA888.

[Pistonheader101]

Ccza/cczb

[TonyTony]

MDMA . said:

The ED35 has the older EA113 engine, not the EA888.

Yea I'm presuming hes just talking about the standard car though.

[ZX10R NIN]

Above all you need judge them on condition both are decent cars so get the best one you can find other better imo options are the Megane RS & 2.5T Focus ST.