Why do main dealers send their own cars to auction?
Why do main dealers send their own cars to auction?
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AlexNJ89

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3,202 posts

108 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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This one is just out of curiosity. I was looking on the BCA auctions website and saw that both BMW and Mercedes have sent cars to auction which would be perfectly good for their main dealer forecourts.

Why are they sending them to auction?


sunbeam alpine

7,244 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Does "Warranted" in each listing refer to the milage or the car?

I know my local garage sends everything that is out of manufacturer's warranty either to auction, or in the case of older cars, straight to a guy who buys them up for the eastern bloc countries.

It's because he otherwise has to provide a full year's warranty on the car himself.

Sir Bagalot

7,072 posts

210 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Warranted means they confirm the mileage is genuine.

The Grade markings mostly give the game away

phib

4,520 posts

288 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Sir Bagalot said:
Warranted means they confirm the mileage is genuine.

The Grade markings mostly give the game away
Agreed, prep costs are likely to be too much on grade 3 or 4 cars etc

Phib


Edited by phib on Tuesday 25th August 16:05

hyphen

26,262 posts

119 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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phib said:
Sir Bagalot said:
Warranted means they confirm the mileage is genuine.

The Grade markings mostly give the game away
Agreed, prep costs are likely to be too much on grade 3 care etc

Phib
And risks of more warranty claims too perhaps.

Pistonheader101

2,206 posts

136 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Bargains to be had

NGRhodes

1,291 posts

101 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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I would of thought they are part exchanges.
Auction prices are factored in to valuations and not worth risk of covering warranty as approved used product.

hyphen

26,262 posts

119 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Pistonheader101 said:
Bargains to be had
BCA are currently closed to the public due to Covid. And with only profit making trade buyers attending, the bidding should be more sensible.

ralphrj

4,073 posts

220 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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AlexNJ89 said:
This one is just out of curiosity. I was looking on the BCA auctions website and saw that both BMW and Mercedes have sent cars to auction which would be perfectly good for their main dealer forecourts.
When I was at MB they had an in-house Used Car Remarketing team that handled ex-employee and ex-daily rental hire cars. My understanding is that cars were graded on condition (A/B/C).

A grade cars went to the used car dealerships that MB owned themselves (called MB Direct at the time).

B grade cars went to closed auctions for franchised MB dealers.

C grade cars went to open auctions.

There is a good chance that BMW did the same.

Therefore, these cars have probably been inspected and were not considered good enough to retail through the franchised network.

MDMA .

10,673 posts

130 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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More sell at auction than they do sat on the forecourt.

hyphen

26,262 posts

119 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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ralphrj said:
AlexNJ89 said:
This one is just out of curiosity. I was looking on the BCA auctions website and saw that both BMW and Mercedes have sent cars to auction which would be perfectly good for their main dealer forecourts.
When I was at MB they had an in-house Used Car Remarketing team that handled ex-employee and ex-daily rental hire cars. My understanding is that cars were graded on condition (A/B/C).

A grade cars went to the used car dealerships that MB owned themselves (called MB Direct at the time).

B grade cars went to closed auctions for franchised MB dealers.

C grade cars went to open auctions.

There is a good chance that BMW did the same.

Therefore, these cars have probably been inspected and were not considered good enough to retail through the franchised network.
Isn't there a another option between B and C? Private arrangements with independent dealer?

Did you not sell off to the likes of Car Giant and other volume/trusted buyers?

ralphrj

4,073 posts

220 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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hyphen said:
Isn't there a another option between B and C? Private arrangements with independent dealer?

Did you not sell off to the likes of Car Giant and other volume/trusted buyers?
Possibly, it wasn't an area I worked in but this was my recollection of a conversation with someone who did work in the Remarketing team. I may have missed a grade.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Nearly half of that list have more than 60k miles, it not worth it for a main dealer - that's really independent dealer stock nowadays.

Other ones may be models that have historically sat for a long time on the forecourt so it's much quicker to realise the cash through auction - the i8 and 2 Tourer for eg.

Another reason is having a similar car in stock and you're effectively competing against yourself, rare but it has happened.


ADJimbo

896 posts

215 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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hyphen said:
Pistonheader101 said:
Bargains to be had
BCA are currently closed to the public due to Covid. And with only profit making trade buyers attending, the bidding should be more sensible.
I buy circa 50 a year from BCA and auction prices have been mental since they’ve gone online.

AlexNJ89

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108 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Argleton said:
Nearly half of that list have more than 60k miles, it not worth it for a main dealer - that's really independent dealer stock nowadays.

Other ones may be models that have historically sat for a long time on the forecourt so it's much quicker to realise the cash through auction - the i8 and 2 Tourer for eg.

Another reason is having a similar car in stock and you're effectively competing against yourself, rare but it has happened.
True, except the mileage point as Mercedes are doing it too with low mileage cars

I understand it's a risk buying at auction and their fees are huge for private buyers, but buying a car still under manufacturers warranty could be appealing






Edited by AlexNJ89 on Tuesday 25th August 18:56

Mr Tidy

31,182 posts

156 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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ralphrj said:
When I was at MB they had an in-house Used Car Remarketing team that handled ex-employee and ex-daily rental hire cars. My understanding is that cars were graded on condition (A/B/C).

A grade cars went to the used car dealerships that MB owned themselves (called MB Direct at the time).

B grade cars went to closed auctions for franchised MB dealers.

C grade cars went to open auctions.

There is a good chance that BMW did the same.

Therefore, these cars have probably been inspected and were not considered good enough to retail through the franchised network.
I suspect BMW did something similar.

My 1st BMW in 2005 was a 2004 320td Compact that had been a BMW UK car but I bought it from Scotthall in Chandler's Ford.

AndyAjar

20 posts

96 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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BCA collected mine last week. It got graded 'A', fella said that due to the condition and low mileage (thank you Covid) it would end up in a dealership somewheredown South. It'll be a great buy for somebody.

Sheepshanks

40,840 posts

148 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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AlexNJ89 said:
True, except the mileage point as Mercedes are doing it too with low mileage cars

I understand it's a risk buying at auction and their fees are huge for private buyers, but buying a car still under manufacturers warranty could be appealing
Many of those are staggeringly low mileage for the age. They’re all out of warranty on age and my guess would be owners/drivers have not had them serviced annually as they should have so they can’t be sold as approved used.

A poster on one of the MB forums I visit bought an unserviced C Class at auction and the engine failed shortly after purchase.

hyphen

26,262 posts

119 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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AndyAjar said:
BCA collected mine last week. It got graded 'A', fella said that due to the condition and low mileage (thank you Covid) it would end up in a dealership somewheredown South. It'll be a great buy for somebody.
What is it?

talksthetorque

10,821 posts

164 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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Could some of these be the intermittent fault type cars that have been returned after sale?
Clear the codes, wash your hands of it.