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I find myself in a position where I have a stable job I started 2+ months back but have an offer of another one.
Both have pros and cons and I've been thinking hard about it and I cannot make my mind up so I turn to PH for advice.
Current job pros are:
Pays well
100% stable
My manager is great
Company is going strength to strength
Cons:
It is very boring and I'm light on work most of the time, it's mind numbing
I'm doing work I did at the start of my career
Will have to commute via train once we all return to the office
CEO is controversial and has clearly said money>people regarding covid19
The offer pros:
Pays well
Also 100% stable
I'd be the first through the door doing what I do and would be leading it
Commute will be via car once we return to the office
Growing business
Cons:
Owner is a bit erratic
No one above me to learn from
Business is stable but has poor reviews from customers (around 11% are negative)
Longer working hours (30 mins a day)
Owner works 18 hour days and I get the inkling he expects the same to a degree from employees
Out of hours contact is very much on the table
Money wise the new one is paying approx £500 more per month.
Would love to get others opinion on the matter.
Both have pros and cons and I've been thinking hard about it and I cannot make my mind up so I turn to PH for advice.
Current job pros are:
Pays well
100% stable
My manager is great
Company is going strength to strength
Cons:
It is very boring and I'm light on work most of the time, it's mind numbing
I'm doing work I did at the start of my career
Will have to commute via train once we all return to the office
CEO is controversial and has clearly said money>people regarding covid19
The offer pros:
Pays well
Also 100% stable
I'd be the first through the door doing what I do and would be leading it
Commute will be via car once we return to the office
Growing business
Cons:
Owner is a bit erratic
No one above me to learn from
Business is stable but has poor reviews from customers (around 11% are negative)
Longer working hours (30 mins a day)
Owner works 18 hour days and I get the inkling he expects the same to a degree from employees
Out of hours contact is very much on the table
Money wise the new one is paying approx £500 more per month.
Would love to get others opinion on the matter.
These sort of posts tend always to need more insight than can be given on such a platform but if you're looking for an 'on the basis of what you've written' reply then go for option 2.
Embrace the challenge, ride the wave.... you'll only develop if you push yourself outside of what's comfortable.
Good luck,
Embrace the challenge, ride the wave.... you'll only develop if you push yourself outside of what's comfortable.
Good luck,
Honestly, I would stay put.
It might be 30 minutes extra on the contract, but it would concern me if the owner is erratic and does 18 hour days and sort of makes it sound like everyone must be doing as much as "me".
Having worked for someone like that, well frankly put, never again. That particular "character" nearly drove me to breaking point, until I flat out refused to do anything out of hours (in my review meeting no less), I left for that and various other reasons soon after. But this was a particular moment of where our working relationship became fractured.
All in all, whilst I respected him initially, personally I have little to do with him now and have little respect for him as a result.
It might be 30 minutes extra on the contract, but it would concern me if the owner is erratic and does 18 hour days and sort of makes it sound like everyone must be doing as much as "me".
Having worked for someone like that, well frankly put, never again. That particular "character" nearly drove me to breaking point, until I flat out refused to do anything out of hours (in my review meeting no less), I left for that and various other reasons soon after. But this was a particular moment of where our working relationship became fractured.
All in all, whilst I respected him initially, personally I have little to do with him now and have little respect for him as a result.
Always have to remember that the owner of 2 will be putting in those hours because his company (and therefore his bank balance) will directly benefit from it. You have to ask yourself if you're going to be expected to regularly doing similar amounts of overtime, is the benefit back to you of the new job worth it.
Ninja59 said:
Honestly, I would stay put.
It might be 30 minutes extra on the contract, but it would concern me if the owner is erratic and does 18 hour days and sort of makes it sound like everyone must be doing as much as "me".
Having worked for someone like that, well frankly put, never again. That particular "character" nearly drove me to breaking point, until I flat out refused to do anything out of hours (in my review meeting no less), I left for that and various other reasons soon after. But this was a particular moment of where our working relationship became fractured.
All in all, whilst I respected him initially, personally I have little to do with him now and have little respect for him as a result.
Mine did drive me to breaking point...never again. My favourite was chasing calls and emails on Christmas day...guy had 0 life and basically expected everyone else to also have 0 life.It might be 30 minutes extra on the contract, but it would concern me if the owner is erratic and does 18 hour days and sort of makes it sound like everyone must be doing as much as "me".
Having worked for someone like that, well frankly put, never again. That particular "character" nearly drove me to breaking point, until I flat out refused to do anything out of hours (in my review meeting no less), I left for that and various other reasons soon after. But this was a particular moment of where our working relationship became fractured.
All in all, whilst I respected him initially, personally I have little to do with him now and have little respect for him as a result.
Better the Devil you know...
In this climate, not worth the aggro, even if the job is 'mind numbing'... it's better than getting burnt out by a bad employer. Although reviews aren't everything, if there's a high staff turnover, it's a sign something isn't quite correct. Make the most of your current role before the Second Wave of Covid in winter.
In this climate, not worth the aggro, even if the job is 'mind numbing'... it's better than getting burnt out by a bad employer. Although reviews aren't everything, if there's a high staff turnover, it's a sign something isn't quite correct. Make the most of your current role before the Second Wave of Covid in winter.
Hmm general consensus is pretty clear.
In terms of easing me in, no its basically what I will be doing for the foreseeable.
It's on par salary wise with my previous job, but responsibilities and scope have taken a massive downgrade - Job 2 would put those back in line + an additional £10k.
Most of the day I'm twiddling thumbs and it's making me go a bit mad.
In terms of easing me in, no its basically what I will be doing for the foreseeable.
It's on par salary wise with my previous job, but responsibilities and scope have taken a massive downgrade - Job 2 would put those back in line + an additional £10k.
Most of the day I'm twiddling thumbs and it's making me go a bit mad.
I've done No1 ; mind-numbing.
I've also done No2 ; owner/manager who works all hours, has management meetings that go on until 10 at night and calls me on a Sunday to talk about stock reports.
Both have a detrimental effect on a persons well-being.
I assume the extra money quoted is gross so how much will you actually pick-up.
For what it's worth, I would go for mind-numbing because it gives the opportunity to immerse yourself in your own thoughts during the day and have time to do 'other' things, as long as you have internet access without being over-looked. It's how I found a few good forums to read. If it's mind-numbing you can always up your output to make up for browsing time.
I've also done No2 ; owner/manager who works all hours, has management meetings that go on until 10 at night and calls me on a Sunday to talk about stock reports.
Both have a detrimental effect on a persons well-being.
I assume the extra money quoted is gross so how much will you actually pick-up.
For what it's worth, I would go for mind-numbing because it gives the opportunity to immerse yourself in your own thoughts during the day and have time to do 'other' things, as long as you have internet access without being over-looked. It's how I found a few good forums to read. If it's mind-numbing you can always up your output to make up for browsing time.
The only downside to 2 seems to be the when s
t hits the fan times. Twice a year my arse. I get asked by my boss to do extra bits and pieces often during the busy summer season. I get extra pay over and above the standard hourly rate, and it is appreciated. I get the feeling with you it would be like it or leave instead, and once or twice becomes regularly. Couldn't hack that for an extra monkey.
t hits the fan times. Twice a year my arse. I get asked by my boss to do extra bits and pieces often during the busy summer season. I get extra pay over and above the standard hourly rate, and it is appreciated. I get the feeling with you it would be like it or leave instead, and once or twice becomes regularly. Couldn't hack that for an extra monkey.It doesnt work for everyone, but I never stayed anywhere long, always moved on, never regretted it.
My wife on the other hand stayed in the same company for 30 years (the blue oval one).
In my view it depends what sort of person you are, but if you've got itchy feet now, what will it be like with a year of mind numbing tedium added in?
My wife on the other hand stayed in the same company for 30 years (the blue oval one).
In my view it depends what sort of person you are, but if you've got itchy feet now, what will it be like with a year of mind numbing tedium added in?
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