What the hell is wrong with this guy?
What the hell is wrong with this guy?
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A500leroy

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7,813 posts

142 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-5395668...

Its like a Dr Who episode where they create the cybermen!! He needs stopping.

garagewidow

1,502 posts

194 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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He seems to be turning into a mix of Frankenstein and Doc Brown.

It'll give the conspiracy theorists a big bullet for their gun.

GappySmeg

366 posts

131 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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A500leroy said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-5395668...

Its like a Dr Who episode where they create the cybermen!! He needs stopping.
Are you able to explain why you think he needs stopping?
To me it sounds like an exciting, albeit not new, piece of research.

frisbee

5,510 posts

134 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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A500leroy said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-5395668...

Its like a Dr Who episode where they create the cybermen!! He needs stopping.
What's wrong Jeff? Having problems with your rockets?

CourtAgain

3,777 posts

88 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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iPig? getmecoat

Brads67

3,199 posts

122 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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I'm pretty sure no will be want him stopped when he manages to create an implant that restores movement to paralysed people.

Some folk would still burn witches if they got the chance.

Louis Balfour

28,176 posts

246 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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He is bonkers.

anonymous-user

78 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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Brads67 said:
I'm pretty sure no will be want him stopped when he manages to create an implant that restores movement to paralysed people.

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The thing is he promises so many things that don’t actually happen, though I accept some do.

It’s reported that “Musk did not present any scientific data to support his claims about the pigs or the devices“.

Anyway, I thought he’d done the pig with a microchip a couple of years ago, called it the Model 3. wink

Polite M135 driver

1,853 posts

108 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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He is ambitious and prepared to fail, which I think is why so many people are a bit nonplussed by it all.

A Winner Is You

25,838 posts

251 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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Brads67 said:
I'm pretty sure no will be want him stopped when he manages to create an implant that restores movement to paralysed people.

Some folk would still burn witches if they got the chance.
People would be in for a shock if they realised just how many products they use are developed through animal testing.

CubanPete

3,774 posts

212 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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REALIST123 said:
The thing is he promises so many things that don’t actually happen, though I accept some do.
As someone who works in R&D, that is how it works.... I.e Loads of stuff doesn't work ! if we knew how to do it we'd be doing it already.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

194 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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CubanPete said:
REALIST123 said:
The thing is he promises so many things that don’t actually happen, though I accept some do.
As someone who works in R&D, that is how it works.... I.e Loads of stuff doesn't work ! if we knew how to do it we'd be doing it already.
Yeah, but he does seem to keep peddling the same crap though.

The bloke is a mentalist.

ABZ RS6

749 posts

127 months

Saturday 29th August 2020
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To be fair, I’ve implanted many pigs on a Saturday night so nothing really new to see here.

I certainly didn’t want to see most of them again.

Jader1973

4,882 posts

224 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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Brads67 said:
I'm pretty sure no will be want him stopped when he manages to create an implant that restores movement to paralysed people.

Some folk would still burn witches if they got the chance.
I think his ambitions are a more along the lines of STEM in the film Upgrade rather than helping paralysed people.




glazbagun

15,176 posts

221 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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Jader1973 said:
Brads67 said:
I'm pretty sure no will be want him stopped when he manages to create an implant that restores movement to paralysed people.

Some folk would still burn witches if they got the chance.
I think his ambitions are a more along the lines of STEM in the film Upgrade rather than helping paralysed people.
He has stated he was inspired by Iain M Banks' Neural Lace from some of his Culture novels, though the concept has been used in other SciFi. Basically Google Glass, but in your head.

I would have been all for this twenty years ago, but seeing how badly society has handled mobile internet access and social media, the idea of having a mobile in my head with access to my brain and nervous system strikes me as a really poor idea.

I'm unsure if Musk is an example of a genius or just what happens when you give a stubborn sci-fi enthusiast $100-odd Million to blow on their pet projects. He's certainly more interesting than Bezos or Gates, but I'm not sure that's enough to change the world.


Edited by glazbagun on Sunday 30th August 03:59

Brainpox

4,300 posts

175 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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Is there a lot of difference in the theory behind this chip and current bionic limbs? Just controlled directly from the brain and with more potential applications.

I think it'll be one of those things that is quiet for a few years and then explodes when its potential is realised (if it gets off the ground).

I'm sure there would be some perfectly abled people who would be interested as well. You could turn off your smart lights just by thinking about it laugh

pquinn

7,167 posts

70 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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Snake oil bullst - not the very basic aspect of the implants, more the promise of the magic implant machine and especially all the things it'll supposedly be able to cure via 'software'. Literal snake oil sales stuff.

Demo seems to have been a bit smoke and mirrors too - the (meaningless) sensors stuff on the screen not always matching the things happening to the pig (same actions not always triggering a readout) let alone the beepity boop that depended on where the camera was looking... About as real as the original solar tile unveil.

Plus the 'move fast and break things' dev stuff doesn't work for surgical devices, a more careful approach is needed. Maybe that's why almost all the original team had quit by the time we got the demo.


It's not a surprise some people fall for this stuff but right now it's more or less just Theranos Mk2.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

278 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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GappySmeg said:
Are you able to explain why you think he needs stopping?
To me it sounds like an exciting, albeit not new, piece of research.
Because cretins st their pants when they see change coming they dont understand even though it could benefit quite a lot of people.

This, GMO's, RNA therapies etc. Lets face it we've been successfully using vaccines for centuries yet elements of the media lead idiots around by the noses against it to a point where we are getting out breaks of diseases that should have been stamped out by now.

TheJimi

27,245 posts

267 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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A500leroy said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-5395668...

Its like a Dr Who episode where they create the cybermen!! He needs stopping.
There were probably people like you back in the late 1950's, when a cochlear implant was first invented.


Sheets Tabuer

21,052 posts

239 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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As a father to a severely physically but not mentally disabled lad things like this will be a god send for him, Alexa has already proved to be life changing so can only imagine the possibilities of this.