Handheld Speed Gun
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Aaron702

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68 posts

81 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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Was on my way to work this afternoon and headed down Lower Thames Street. If anyone knows the area this is a dual carriageway that used to be 30mph but is now 20mph under the blanket central London speed limit.

There is a static Gatso camera halfway down the road which I obviously always slow down for. I was doing about 23-25mph indicated the whole way down, slowing for the camera when I noticed two City Police officers hiding behind an unmarked car parked wholly on the pavement on the nearside. One of them had a speed gun and was pointing down the road.

I wasn't stopped and wasn't given a second look as I went past. I was also on a motorcycle so have no front number plate.

What are the chances of seeing something through the post in the next 14 days?

anonymous-user

71 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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Unlikely

HantsRat

2,403 posts

125 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Who knows...

Some handheld speed guns have integrated cameras where they process back at the station and send NIP's out. Some don't have cameras but they could write down your speed and registration number and send an NIP in the post.

Or

They were looking for bigger fish to manually pull over and issues a traffic offence report at the roadside.

A 14 day wait awaits (If you're the registered keeper)

chopper602

2,299 posts

240 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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HantsRat said:
Who knows...
Some handheld speed guns have integrated cameras where they process back at the station and send NIP's out. Some don't have cameras but they could write down your speed and registration number and send an NIP in the post.
Even if the speed gun had an integrated camera, it's not going to get the reg number from the front of a motorbike. You'll be fine (no pun intended!)

HantsRat

2,403 posts

125 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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chopper602 said:
Even if the speed gun had an integrated camera, it's not going to get the reg number from the front of a motorbike. You'll be fine (no pun intended!)
The officer simply needs to note the registration down. Just because there is no front reg, it doesn't mean they're safe.

dukeboy749r

2,999 posts

227 months

Thursday 3rd September 2020
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HantsRat said:
chopper602 said:
Even if the speed gun had an integrated camera, it's not going to get the reg number from the front of a motorbike. You'll be fine (no pun intended!)
The officer simply needs to note the registration down. Just because there is no front reg, it doesn't mean they're safe.
Seems to leave a lot to the integrity of the individual officer. Not that I am questioning that most police officers are integrity personified...

Aaron702

Original Poster:

68 posts

81 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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HantsRat said:
The officer simply needs to note the registration down. Just because there is no front reg, it doesn't mean they're safe.
There were two officers, neither of them turned around to note the reg as I went past.

un1corn

2,143 posts

154 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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Bikes are tricky at the best of times to get an accurate hit with a hand-held, unless it's tripod mounted like the ones in the vans.

Bumblebee7

1,533 posts

92 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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They're looking for people taking the piss and going 30+. At a whisker over 20 you'll be absolutely fine, especially if you're sure they didn't look for your plate.

carlove

7,809 posts

184 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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I passed one at 36 in a 30 road, she was hiding behind a sign . Got an NIP for 38 which is curious. I’m in the guidelines still for speed awareness course so I’m not questioning it and I was still over the speed limit.

BertBert

20,505 posts

228 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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I got a 40 nip in a 30 and I know the speedo was reading under 40, showing 38. But I was definitely over 30 and almost certainly over 34. Mildly irritating, but I was over the threshold.

Bert

PixelpeepZ4

8,600 posts

159 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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Aaron702 said:
There is a static Gatso camera halfway down the road which I obviously always slow down for.
if it ends up going to court, please, do not represent yourself.

laugh

BertBert

20,505 posts

228 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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I got a 40 nip in a 30 and I know the speedo was reading under 40, showing 38. But I was definitely over 30 and almost certainly over 34. Mildly irritating, but I was over the threshold.

Bert

djohnson

3,589 posts

240 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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Aaron702 said:
HantsRat said:
The officer simply needs to note the registration down. Just because there is no front reg, it doesn't mean they're safe.
There were two officers, neither of them turned around to note the reg as I went past.
Isn’t that the answer then? No front plate on a bike and neither turned round to either read or photograph the rear plate = no issue.

Frane Selak

87 posts

2 months

Tuesday 9th September
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I was going to ask a similar question but googled it first and this thread came up, so hand held speed devices now have video recording as well and they don't need to flag you down, great.

So how does this work then as most offences are caught by someone in a van with a speed gun/video mounted onto a tripod, I would imagine even the tripod is somewhat calibrated to remain level and plenty of people have talked about slippage in the past where the sight cross deviates slightly from the numberplate that could possibly lead to an inaccurate reading. How on earth do they get a conviction to stick when its just some bloke or woman leaning against a lamppost? Are they trained to surgical levels to have such a steady hand, or is it they can only get a reading when the car is practically on top of them.