New car? Good Mustang Deal?
New car? Good Mustang Deal?
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JB33

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90 posts

94 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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I’ve never owned a new car so, I’m open to opinions and different points view to help me decide.

All but few new cars nowadays are too boring and efficient. There is one though that caught my attention and that is the new Mustang, specifically the one I’ve got my eye on: Mustang Bullitt. It’s a new 2020 model and will be on a new 70 plate and the deal is £5,000 down, 0% APR (which is the main attraction), haggled down to £490 per month over 38 months and balloon payment of £24,689 if I keep it. So just over £48k in total. I do think the dealer would go down to £450 per month. All in all, a good car as well. I just can’t help feeling uneasy about taking on so much debt though. I usually buy my cars .... but lately have not enjoyed seeing them depreciate and tend to end up selling to cut my losses. So was thinking this may eliminate that? But then would be taking on substantial debt. I often go between ‘life is too short, enjoy it’ and ‘save what I can for a rainy day’.

I could comfortably ‘afford’ the payment and have more than enough left over each month and already have an emergency fund stashed away and no other debt (minus mortgage) but monthly outgoings are very good indeed.

Other option was to buy something already bottomed out like an S2000, older GT86 or Type R and just keep that till it blows up.

I also considered taking a bank loan and part cash to buy something newer ... but then would worry about depreciation and owning something losing me so much money.

I love the idea of owning a new car from day one, and can always get out the deal a couple years in if need be.

Thoughts?

clockworks

7,599 posts

174 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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If you run it for 3 years and then hand it back, it will have cost you £7.5k a year - that's a lot of "depreciation".

I'm sure you could buy something decent secondhand for the £22.5k, run it for 3 years, and get some money back at the end.

I guess it might make sense if you really want a brand new Mustang though, and can pay the balloon payment at the end.

alabbasi

3,207 posts

116 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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23k to lease a car over 3 years? What does a 3 year old Mustang cost?

Saleen836

12,488 posts

238 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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alabbasi said:
23k to lease a car over 3 years? What does a 3 year old Mustang cost?
About that wink

davek_964

11,204 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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alabbasi said:
23k to lease a car over 3 years? What does a 3 year old Mustang cost?
I've browsed them recently - they start at about £27k

alabbasi

3,207 posts

116 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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I guess I'm struggling with the cost. $30k will buy you a new Mustang here.

Trevor555

5,397 posts

113 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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Mustang Bullitt with £5,000 down and 0%

Working out at £48,000 total.

I think I'd go for that if I was after one.

18 month old ones are selling for £40,000 ish? But wouldn't be 0% I guess?

It's nice buying a new car knowing you're the first owner, and I'm happy to pay a bit of a premium for that.

I'm also in the camp of "you only live once"

Treat yourself, and show us lots of pics when you've got it.

N111BJG

1,260 posts

92 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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Years from now, in the hypothetical nursing home the bloke next to you starts talking about the great times he had in the new mustang he had in 2020, he can remember where he drove it, who he was with.
However, despite having all his marbles he has forgotten precisely how much it cost, because it turns out that wasn’t very important.
Do you want to be him with those tales to tell or have a few more quid in the bank.

JB33

Original Poster:

90 posts

94 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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N111BJG said:
Years from now, in the hypothetical nursing home the bloke next to you starts talking about the great times he had in the new mustang he had in 2020, he can remember where he drove it, who he was with.
However, despite having all his marbles he has forgotten precisely how much it cost, because it turns out that wasn’t very important.
Do you want to be him with those tales to tell or have a few more quid in the bank.
Never thought about it like this, I like it :-)

JB33

Original Poster:

90 posts

94 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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Trevor555 said:
Mustang Bullitt with £5,000 down and 0%

Working out at £48,000 total.

I think I'd go for that if I was after one.

18 month old ones are selling for £40,000 ish? But wouldn't be 0% I guess?

It's nice buying a new car knowing you're the first owner, and I'm happy to pay a bit of a premium for that.

I'm also in the camp of "you only live once"

Treat yourself, and show us lots of pics when you've got it.
Yeh it’s a decent deal and he may be able to knock a couple more thousand off. I am very tempted as it’s such a different car to the usual ones I’ve owned.

Trevor555

5,397 posts

113 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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I'd also hazzard a guess that'll it'll be worth a fair bit more than £24,669 in 38 months.

I don't think you'll be able to buy a mustang like car then, most will be part electric? Or even simply discontinued?

JB33

Original Poster:

90 posts

94 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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Trevor555 said:
I'd also hazzard a guess that'll it'll be worth a fair bit more than £24,669 in 38 months.

I don't think you'll be able to buy a mustang like car then, most will be part electric? Or even simply discontinued?
Was thinking this too, seems fairly conservative as 3 year old GT models are still around £28k at least

Venisonpie

4,785 posts

111 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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As a comparator I've been offered an Alpine Legende (cap ex 54k) for £16,600 over 24 mths or £21,700 over 36mths. This looks like a similar outlay to the Mustang but a very different car. APR 4.9% so not as good as the Ford but residuals a little better (I think).

I originally intended to order a factory car and pay cash but might go PCP on the stock car. I'm guessing used values might be very different in a couple of years than now so may be handing it back with mega negative equity - this way the finance company has to take the hit rather than me. If it's a lot less than the RV and they remarket it I could even buy it back outside of the PCP at a lower price..

ZX10R NIN

30,507 posts

154 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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That's a decent deal, I'd say buy it the cheapest used Bullitt is around 40k so go for it.

Andy665

4,160 posts

257 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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N111BJG said:
Years from now, in the hypothetical nursing home the bloke next to you starts talking about the great times he had in the new mustang he had in 2020, he can remember where he drove it, who he was with.
However, despite having all his marbles he has forgotten precisely how much it cost, because it turns out that wasn’t very important.
Do you want to be him with those tales to tell or have a few more quid in the bank.
That is a great way of putting things and one I completely agree with

C8

287 posts

248 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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I had a moment where I really fancied a Bullitt but thought about it for long enough to question where the value was in it costing me my mint low mileage 3.5 year old GT plus another £20k plus on top.

Mr Tidy

31,182 posts

156 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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N111BJG said:
Years from now, in the hypothetical nursing home the bloke next to you starts talking about the great times he had in the new mustang he had in 2020, he can remember where he drove it, who he was with.
However, despite having all his marbles he has forgotten precisely how much it cost, because it turns out that wasn’t very important.
Do you want to be him with those tales to tell or have a few more quid in the bank.
Very sound advice. thumbup

The older I've got the more I am inclined to just get what I want if I can afford it - we're only here once!

C8

287 posts

248 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Mr Tidy said:
N111BJG said:
Years from now, in the hypothetical nursing home the bloke next to you starts talking about the great times he had in the new mustang he had in 2020, he can remember where he drove it, who he was with.
However, despite having all his marbles he has forgotten precisely how much it cost, because it turns out that wasn’t very important.
Do you want to be him with those tales to tell or have a few more quid in the bank.
Very sound advice. thumbup

The older I've got the more I am inclined to just get what I want if I can afford it - we're only here once!
The great times, the places you drive, the people you are with, none of that is down to the car you have, you can create all of the same experiences with a shed. I've had loads of decent and new cars but I don't pretend that they've done anything something costing fraction of the price would have done.

Camelot1971

2,847 posts

195 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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alabbasi said:
I guess I'm struggling with the cost. $30k will buy you a new Mustang here.
For a rental spec ecoboost one. The Bullitt is $47k without options.

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

110 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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JB33 said:
N111BJG said:
Years from now, in the hypothetical nursing home the bloke next to you starts talking about the great times he had in the new mustang he had in 2020, he can remember where he drove it, who he was with.
However, despite having all his marbles he has forgotten precisely how much it cost, because it turns out that wasn’t very important.
Do you want to be him with those tales to tell or have a few more quid in the bank.
Never thought about it like this, I like it :-)
It would be in a state-run nursing home though, because he spaffed £7.5k every year on car depreciation.