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WTFWT

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868 posts

252 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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Quick question. I dug behind the sofa for a lost remote control and pulled out an unopened NIP from 2nd January!! Standard speil - respond in 30 days or 6 points and fine etc. I’ve heard nothing since. Have I slipped through the cracks and “got away with it” or is there just a huge backlog due to covid and the pain is coming down the tracks...

Thank you.

Jimmy Recard

17,550 posts

208 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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Check your licence online first

carreauchompeur

18,321 posts

233 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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^^^^ This.
I would be surprised if you’ve fallen between the gaps. There is a big backlog of court cases from the earlier months of the pandemic however you’d likely have received a summons.

Can you be sure the summons hasn’t been similarly hidden? Just FYI but the offence of Failure to Nominate has a slightly longer ‘expiry’ date,

mygoldfishbowl

4,285 posts

172 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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You may have slipped through the cracks as it does occasionally happen. Normally, maybe not always, but normally they will send a second nip if they receive no response from the first.

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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They would have 6 months plus 28 days from when the nip/ S172 was served to commence proceedings for failing to furnish driver information, so give or take the end of January, so it would seem that unusually you may well have slipped through the cracks. As mentioned check your licence to make sure there are no nasty surprises showing you have been convicted of an offence in your absence maybe due to more lost paperwork

fourstardan

6,524 posts

173 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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martinbiz said:
They would have 6 months plus 28 days from when the nip/ S172 was served to commence proceedings for failing to furnish driver information, so give or take the end of January, so it would seem that unusually you may well have slipped through the cracks. As mentioned check your licence to make sure there are no nasty surprises showing you have been convicted of an offence in your absence maybe due to more lost paperwork
Did you really mean to say "for failing to furnish driver information" when it was "down the sofa" hahaha

Bit naive to think you would get away with this to me.

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Ha ha unintentional pun

If the OP has not been convicted in his absence and as of now no proceedings have been commenced then both potential offences have now timed out, so he certainly has got away with one

V8RX7

28,982 posts

292 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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As mentioned check your license online - an acquaintance who isn't the sharpest (but is a great plasterer) ignores all paperwork and was surprised when finally pulled over for "no MOT, Tax or insurance" to find that his license had been revoked a year ago.

WTFWT

Original Poster:

868 posts

252 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Thanks for all your posts. I’ve checked online and I have zero points. So it looks like I have been fortunate. Phew. Thanks again.

agtlaw

7,402 posts

235 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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WTFWT said:
Thanks for all your posts. I’ve checked online and I have zero points. So it looks like I have been fortunate. Phew. Thanks again.
It’s 2020, so ignore anyone here who mentions a Summons.

Not out of the woods yet. You may have something pending if proceedings were instituted close to the deadline.

You should check with the police prosecutor. Contact details will be on the Notice.

carreauchompeur

18,321 posts

233 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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agtlaw said:
It’s 2020, so ignore anyone here who mentions a Summons.
Thanks for the patronising comment... it’s common parlance for a Postal Requisition and doesn’t change the message I was conveying above.

Laplace

1,091 posts

211 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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Isn't it the case in England that they only have to lay information with the court within the timeframe to commence proceedings?

Different to up here where they have to have your arse in court within the timeframe.

As mentioned, I'd phone the clerk and ask if anything relating to this offence is laid against your name.

roadsmash

2,667 posts

99 months

Saturday 5th September 2020
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carreauchompeur said:
agtlaw said:
It’s 2020, so ignore anyone here who mentions a Summons.
Thanks for the patronising comment... it’s common parlance for a Postal Requisition and doesn’t change the message I was conveying above.
Apart from when you mentioned a summons, twice. smile

agtlaw

7,402 posts

235 months

Saturday 5th September 2020
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A summons is not a postal requisition and a postal requisition is not a single justice procedure notice.

Good effort though. Keep trying.

Turfy

1,071 posts

210 months

Saturday 5th September 2020
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agtlaw said:
A summons is not a postal requisition and a postal requisition is not a single justice procedure notice.

Good effort though. Keep trying.
You said Summons smile

Thanks for the valuable input agtlaw; always appreciated.

carreauchompeur

18,321 posts

233 months

Saturday 5th September 2020
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Yes, dears, I said summons. You know what I meant and the effect is very similar to a postal requisition. But obviously this means I know nothing about criminal law and procedures so I’ll bow out.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 5th September 2020
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Wonder how many of these have “fallen through the cracks” since Covid... unusual occurrence my ass... laugh

carreauchompeur

18,321 posts

233 months

Saturday 5th September 2020
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Schmed said:
Wonder how many of these have “fallen through the cracks” since Covid... unusual occurrence my ass... laugh
It’s very random, I put some cases in around March and they’ve just ended up being kicked indefinitely down the road... drink drivers etc too. Multiple adjournments for holding dates. Whereas some recent stuff has been charged to court 2 weeks later. March case still waiting!

That was the gist of my point... the court paperwork might have gone awry but it could potentially still be in the system somewhere.

Edited by carreauchompeur on Saturday 5th September 18:29

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Saturday 5th September 2020
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I seem to remember a few years ago a prosecution, l think for failing to furnish, was dropped or thrown out due to the summons not having been served in a timely manner. The information had been laid with the courts before the 6 month deadline, but for reasons unknown the summons did not arrive for a further 5 months or so.

Maybe AGT remembers, or has some info