How long does a council have to send a yellow box fine?
How long does a council have to send a yellow box fine?
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Funk

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27,652 posts

238 months

Tuesday 1st September 2020
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My dear old mum thinks she screwed up on a box junction in Kingston-on-Thames and they're apparently really militant about fining for the slightest infringement. I know that for things like speeding offences a NIP must be received in 14 days but is it the same for a yellow box offence or do they have longer? Seems to be more difficult to find out than I anticipated so hoping someone here can help.

The date of the alleged infringement was Monday a fortnight ago - if it's also 14 days like a speeding NIP then I reckon she's in the clear?

fourstardan

6,524 posts

173 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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I think these are transport for London, which might have longer time frames?

I know this because years ago I got done in Croydon on the A23 near Coulsdon where it filters down....trouble is I was bullied into the box appealed and won smile

Chiswickboy

549 posts

217 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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It is indeed TfL. I was caught out in a box junction only a couple of hundred yards from my front door. Appealed (as I was sure I had not not infringed against the Highway Code) and lost. Worst part was the lecture by the adjudicator that I should have paid up straight away and not appealed even though I thought that I had entered correctly.

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Funk said:
The date of the alleged infringement was Monday a fortnight ago - if it's also 14 days like a speeding NIP then I reckon she's in the clear?
Subject to a couple of statutory conditions, they can't serve a PCN later than 28 days from the date of the alleged contravention.

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Funk

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Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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SS2. said:
Funk said:
The date of the alleged infringement was Monday a fortnight ago - if it's also 14 days like a speeding NIP then I reckon she's in the clear?
Subject to a couple of statutory conditions, they can't serve a PCN later than 28 days from the date of the alleged contravention.

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Cheers, that's very helpful - looks like another fortnight of keeping fingers crossed then. I drove through that section myself the other day and it's actually a pretty tricky junction with terrible light sequencing.

Edited by Funk on Wednesday 2nd September 15:02

megaphone

11,653 posts

280 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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The one I got last year in Fulham Broadway was issued by LB Hammersmith & Fulham.

PisstNBroke

1,095 posts

253 months

Thursday 3rd September 2020
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I got caught at Raynes Park last year? I'm not a local to area its like a 20mph limit everyone speed off ahead. Next minute a car pulls out of a side road and stops blocking my way and I'm in a yellow box. Contested it and they wouldn't accept it, apparently I should of kerbed my wheels going round like the van behind...

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Thursday 3rd September 2020
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PisstNBroke said:
I got caught at Raynes Park last year? I'm not a local to area its like a 20mph limit everyone speed off ahead. Next minute a car pulls out of a side road and stops blocking my way and I'm in a yellow box. Contested it and they wouldn't accept it, apparently I should of kerbed my wheels going round like the van behind...
Something doesn't sound right with that.

Was the exit clear before you entered the YBJ ? If yes, the appeal should have been allowed - or at least it appears you may have had grounds to have taken it further.

A different story if your exit (and any others) was blocked before you entered the YBJ.

PisstNBroke

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253 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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Something doesn't sound right with that.

Was the exit clear before you entered the YBJ ? If yes, the appeal should have been allowed - or at least it appears you may have had grounds to have taken it further.

A different story if your exit (and any others) was blocked before you entered the YBJ.
To be honest it all happened a bit quick? from my perspective the car was joining my main road which was a one way? with a loop around but because cars up ahead were coming to a stop at traffic lights where the road splits straight on (my intension) and a right (traffic controlled) it brought the car to push its way out in the small gap in front of me. I was following the sat nav as my job requires me to drive all over the south but by time I stopped was in yellow box, the toyota rav4 was in the middle of both lanes and a car parked on the right just outside the box and then the van behind pushing round mounting pavement. Just found the video all happens in the space of 4 seconds. Its the first and hopefully last time I get done I contested it but failed, would of been the meeting thing but time off work and travelling back not worth it, as they say .... happens.

Edited by PisstNBroke on Friday 4th September 08:05