Insurance for US expat
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Big Raff

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1,386 posts

200 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Hi, looking for a pointer in the right direction,

Wife is from US and has moved here a few years ago and coming close to the second 2.5 years for the ILR visa. She is about to do he UK provisional and Driving tests befoere the year is out. She has over 20 years driving in the US with a clean licence - can this be passed on or at least used as a reference over here? We are looking for a car for her but I hope that it wont be like looking for a car for a 17yo new driver.

So is there a reputable insurere (or probably broker) that can be used in this instance that will count for 20 years and of clean driving in California?

Thank you in advance

dibblecorse

7,599 posts

221 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Hi

Your best bet would be to try a broker such as Adrian Flux or A Plan and see if there is a friendly broker, Adrian Flux talk about US drivers on their website:

https://www.adrianflux.co.uk/foreign-ncb/?gclid=Cj...


anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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It's "license"

Sorry - couldn't resist! smile

paul chocks

77 posts

192 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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I lived in the States for a number of years and on return to uk I brought a letter from my US insurer (Geico) detailing my claim history. Admiral accepted it and credited my NCD.

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

202 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Just use the usual comparison sites. Even with no driving history as long as she's older and you don't live in Bradford you'll be fine.


Bob T

93 posts

241 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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As above, just use one of the price comparison websites

Everyone goes on about no claims discount but the effect is much less than I was expecting.
I have just returned from several years working in the US, long enough that I no longer have a UK NCD I can use. I was expecting to have problems and concerned about the cost.
My UK insurance is still less than I was paying in the US, despite now having two vehicles which are worth 3 times what my US vehicle was worth !

Big Raff

Original Poster:

1,386 posts

200 months

Thursday 3rd September 2020
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Thanks for the advice all,

Will go the traditional route and enquire with Adrian Flux as well.

Cheers

BertBert

21,257 posts

240 months

Thursday 3rd September 2020
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Big Raff said:
and enquire with Adrian Flux as well.
Just my experience, but I'd rather have my eyes gouged out. Just saying

KevinCamaroSS

13,832 posts

309 months

Thursday 3rd September 2020
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280E said:
It's "license"

Sorry - couldn't resist! smile
Not if you are talking about a driving licence. License is the verb, licence is the noun.

worsy

6,600 posts

204 months

Thursday 3rd September 2020
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KevinCamaroSS said:
280E said:
It's "license"

Sorry - couldn't resist! smile
Not if you are talking about a driving licence. License is the verb, licence is the noun.
#

May have been a joke on a US License compared to a UK Licence smile

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 3rd September 2020
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worsy said:
May have been a joke on a US License compared to a UK Licence smile
I had my trusty parrot at the readysmile

TVR1

5,478 posts

254 months

Thursday 3rd September 2020
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If you're based anywhere near me, OP, i do many driver conversions.

Ping me a message on email.

Its a bit complicated getting a test at the moment but has your wife passed the theory test?

NGee

2,935 posts

193 months

Thursday 3rd September 2020
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Big Raff said:
Wife is from US and has moved here a few years ago and coming close to the second 2.5 years for the ILR visa. She is about to do he UK provisional and Driving tests befoere the year is out. She has over 20 years driving in the US
Hard to tell from your original post, but you say she has been driving for 20 yrs in US, has she been driving in the UK? Maybe as a named driver. If so she's probably been driving illegally as she should have have passed her test within 12 months of moving to the UK. The ILR Visa makes no difference.

If she hasn't but now wants to take her test, then fine, but she will need a provisional licence, L plates, and must not drive unaccompanied until she has passed.

Sorry, can't help you with the insurance question.

Big Raff

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1,386 posts

200 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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TVR1 said:
If you're based anywhere near me, OP, i do many driver conversions.

Ping me a message on email.

Its a bit complicated getting a test at the moment but has your wife passed the theory test?
Thank you for the offer, I have emailed

Big Raff

Original Poster:

1,386 posts

200 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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NGee said:
Hard to tell from your original post, but you say she has been driving for 20 yrs in US, has she been driving in the UK? Maybe as a named driver. If so she's probably been driving illegally as she should have have passed her test within 12 months of moving to the UK. The ILR Visa makes no difference.

If she hasn't but now wants to take her test, then fine, but she will need a provisional licence, L plates, and must not drive unaccompanied until she has passed.

Sorry, can't help you with the insurance question.
Hi, nope she hasn't driven here yet, shes got the provisional and theroy coming up in a few weeks. Can we put L plates on any car?

Thanks again for the advice

wibble cb

4,148 posts

236 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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I read that drivers from some states are eligible for a straight swap to a full UK licence, don’t know which one s though?

TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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wibble cb said:
I read that drivers from some states are eligible for a straight swap to a full UK licence, don’t know which one s though?
Not aware of any. No straight swap to a UK licence from any USA license, as far as I know.

NGee

2,935 posts

193 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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Big Raff said:
Hi, nope she hasn't driven here yet, shes got the provisional and theroy coming up in a few weeks. Can we put L plates on any car?

Thanks again for the advice
Yes, you can put L plates on any car but there are some cars you can't take your test in. (Mainly soft tops and others with poor visibility. I think they're listed on the DSA website)) It's also worth remembering (coming from USA) that if you pass the test in an automatic in the UK you won't be able to drive a manual.


Oh yes,.....and then there's the roundabouts!!!

TVR1

5,478 posts

254 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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Big Raff said:
Hi, nope she hasn't driven here yet, shes got the provisional and theroy coming up in a few weeks. Can we put L plates on any car?

Thanks again for the advice
I’ll send a longer email tomorrow but yes, you can. Only proviso is that Supervising driver is over 21 and has held a licence for that category of vehicles for at least 3 years.

Manual licences allow you to supervise a learner in an automatic car but not the other way around.

There aren’t many companies that offer learner insurance but one I recommend is a company that sounds like an orange based breakfast spread. The learner is insured themselves so the owner of the car has no impact on their insurance, if a claim is made.They also guarantee that they won’t put premiums up once the learner passes. However, it’s age limited to under 30 IIRC

Looking forward, some companies may credit you for no claims overseas. 1 is a Naval sounding one with an African/Asian Land mammal sounding subsidiary.

Just to clarify another poster, there’s no reciprocal agreement with USA. It’s part historic but also because each state has different licensing requirements.

2 things to mention...

1.If you do decide to be the supervising driver for practice, the law conveys the same responsibilities on you as the learner themselves. Therefore, don’t make any phone calls from a hand held device, don’t forget your glasses, don’t have a few ‘cheekies’ before supervising etc. (although, I do think this job should require you to be permanently pissed, sometimes!)It’s caught a few people out.

2.i receive a commission of between £10-£50 if a pupil takes a policy with the orange based spread sounding company. (Although, in a moment of madness, I ticked the box that said put it into the fund for disabled/disadvantage driver training) I try to be nice at least once a month!

Normally, I’d also say, don’t go anywhere near a learner without dual controls but I figure your wife has reasonable experience.






Edited by TVR1 on Friday 4th September 22:45