Anyone know this 997.2 or dealer?
Anyone know this 997.2 or dealer?
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GT4P

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LemonTart

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155 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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Have a look at this one.

Low miles, manual, good price.

https://www.cmsporsche.co.uk/porsche-911-997-carre...


Trevor555

5,013 posts

105 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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I don't know the dealer, way out of my area.

But I like the fact they're not afraid to put their names on their website, gives me the impression they're proud of what they do, and aren't hiding from any past business dealings.

moonigan

2,203 posts

262 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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GT4P said:
Looks very expensive for what it is. Red callipers are non standard, exhaust isn’t the factory sports exhaust, standard seats,

GT4P

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Saturday 5th September 2020
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moonigan said:
Looks very expensive for what it is. Red callipers are non standard, exhaust isn’t the factory sports exhaust, standard seats,
Didn't notice the calipers but the exhaust tips were a £500 factory extra(sports tips), I know it's not perfect spec. but I would look to change the seats for folding buckets.Most 997.2 tend to have standard seats
It's £40k all day long if history and provenance comes up to scratch

GT4P

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Saturday 5th September 2020
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LemonTart said:
Have a look at this one.

Low miles, manual, good price.

https://www.cmsporsche.co.uk/porsche-911-997-carre...
Not a fan of black wheels or the sport design style, also older car,more miles etc so price relative.

moonigan

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262 months

Saturday 5th September 2020
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GT4P said:
Didn't notice the calipers but the exhaust tips were a £500 factory extra(sports tips), I know it's not perfect spec. but I would look to change the seats for folding buckets.Most 997.2 tend to have standard seats
It's £40k all day long if history and provenance comes up to scratch
These cars sound crap without the sports exhaust so I'd be wanting to rectify that immediatley which either means expensive OEM or after market. If you go after market then its a non standard car so again looks expensive. As for fitting folding buckets. Good luck finding them unless you have them already. I gave up after two years. When they do come up on the second hand market prices range between £5-8K. At £44k it needs to be almost perfect spec and at an OPC.

GT4P

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Saturday 5th September 2020
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moonigan said:
These cars sound crap without the sports exhaust so I'd be wanting to rectify that immediatley which either means expensive OEM or after market. If you go after market then its a non standard car so again looks expensive. As for fitting folding buckets. Good luck finding them unless you have them already. I gave up after two years. When they do come up on the second hand market prices range between £5-8K. At £44k it needs to be almost perfect spec and at an OPC.
Agree on price, finding exactly what you want is tough, my criteria most colours don't mind 18" standard wheels or 19s Carrera Classic or sport, post late 2010 sub 35k miles, low owners FPSH or later history good indie and no over revs above zone 1. PASM I can take or leave but everything else is a bonus ie sports seats,pse,short shift,chrono

Edited by GT4P on Saturday 5th September 09:10

MrVert

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260 months

Saturday 5th September 2020
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Agree with the above. For that price it would have to be an OPC Car with 2yr warranty.

Also, in this price range, I’d be looking for an ‘S’ or a 3.6 with PASM and PSE. Makes a massive difference..

Cobra Nogaro seats fit well, look superb and are reasonably priced (compared to OEM seats).

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

286 months

Saturday 5th September 2020
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GT4P said:
Agree on price, finding exactly what you want is tough, my criteria most colours don't mind 18" standard wheels or 19s Carrera Classic or sport, post late 2010 sub 35k miles, low owners FPSH or later history good indie and no over revs above zone 1. PASM I can take or leave but everything else is a bonus ie sports seats,pse,short shift,chrono

Edited by GT4P on Saturday 5th September 09:10
No over revs above range one, good luck.
You might have to say none above range 2.

Which is Still NOT a over Rev. Only 3 and above is an over rev.

Murph7355

40,807 posts

277 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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MrVert said:
Agree with the above. For that price it would have to be an OPC Car with 2yr warranty. ....
I agree (it would also need to be an S with more options) - the price of low miles.


thecopster

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187 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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Your also in 991 territory at that price point...

GT4P

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Tuesday 8th September 2020
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thecopster said:
Your also in 991 territory at that price point...
an early 991.1 is always going to be worth less than a nice 997.2!

Flying machine

1,228 posts

197 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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GT4P said:
Maybe it's just my paranoia relating to an ill-fated 996 years ago and I'm certainly not claiming any expertise, but the right exhaust tips look pretty dirty compared to the left - perhaps its burning some oil?

river_rat

725 posts

224 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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The 997 you have linked isn't particularly 'nice' though (apart from the low miles).

It's ridiculously overpriced for what it is and a 991 would be a better buy at that sort of money.

Porsche911R

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286 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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river_rat said:
The 997 you have linked isn't particularly 'nice' though (apart from the low miles).

It's ridiculously overpriced for what it is and a 991 would be a better buy at that sort of money.
the OP don't want a 991.

river_rat

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224 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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Porsche911R said:
the OP don't want a 991.
Fair enough, but no need to pay way over the odds for a 997 smile

GT4P

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Tuesday 8th September 2020
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Porsche911R said:
river_rat said:
The 997 you have linked isn't particularly 'nice' though (apart from the low miles).

It's ridiculously overpriced for what it is and a 991 would be a better buy at that sort of money.
the OP don't want a 991.1
"This"

The only 991 I would be interested in would be a manual 991T( bar the 991.2gt3/R)
I have never said I would purchase at that price mearley inquiring if anyone new this car, the spec. Is not perfect but as anyone knows who have been looking for a 997.2 it is getting harder to find the right car so if one wants to buy you compromise and pays your money or continue the wait for how ever long that takes.
When you can pay north of £40k for a 987CR a 911 of the same year is not expensive at £40k plus!

Moonigan did you purchase a 997.2 a few years back I seem to recall it was a lovely spec.?


moonigan

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262 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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GT4P said:


Moonigan did you purchase a 997.2 a few years back I seem to recall it was a lovely spec.?
Yep bought a manual 3.6 in June 2017 from an OPC for £44K. 23K miles, Guards Red, PSE, Carrera Sport wheels, sports seats, cruise. It was a really nice example. Sold it last August privately for £36.5K to buy a Megane Trophy-R which didnt end well. Trade bids at the time were a long way away from what I sold it for. OPC offered £28-29K and they admitted they would put it on at £40K all it needed at the time was two front tyres. Specialist bids were between £30.5K and £32K. In my case I suspect the colour puts of a lot of people but the guy that bought wanted red. Also most people want the S because its "better" so the target market reduces again.

IMHO the white £44K car is a £34-37K car retail if you take the current COVID FOMO out of the equation which I'd say accounts for a 10-20% price hike which means trade bids would be sub £30K,

Of all the cars that are currently for sale on AT/PH the white one at CMSPorsche looks good value (in todays market). That said the brake calipers look bleached which puts me off and its only had 4 services in 10 years. Personally I'd be waiting until the market is less frothy and then be really picky.

GT4P

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Tuesday 8th September 2020
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moonigan said:
GT4P said:


Moonigan did you purchase a 997.2 a few years back I seem to recall it was a lovely spec.?
Yep bought a manual 3.6 in June 2017 from an OPC for £44K. 23K miles, Guards Red, PSE, Carrera Sport wheels, sports seats, cruise. It was a really nice example. Sold it last August privately for £36.5K to buy a Megane Trophy-R which didnt end well. Trade bids at the time were a long way away from what I sold it for. OPC offered £28-29K and they admitted they would put it on at £40K all it needed at the time was two front tyres. Specialist bids were between £30.5K and £32K. In my case I suspect the colour puts of a lot of people but the guy that bought wanted red. Also most people want the S because its "better" so the target market reduces again.
I remember it now what a lovely car, if it was August this year I would been over it like a rash sadly last year all funds were tied up to facilitate a big move but now in a much better position.
Disagree about the colour I think red suits the 911 and to be honest the vanilla 997.2 is plenty quick enough and IMHO the pick of the 997 range but then what do I know