Strange broadband/cabling issue
Strange broadband/cabling issue
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AJB88

Original Poster:

15,912 posts

201 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Hi all,

Had EE upto 76 for 2+ years no issues, joined Vodafone upto 63 in preperation for Gigafast being available (cables have been down 3 months now), that was working well for a few weeks then my 6 month old puppy (at the time) decided he was going to chew through the skirting board and cabling. So I bodged the cable back together and off we went but the connection was very unstable.

So a week ago the missus dad come over who used to be a BT technician, he's installed a brand new cable from where the cabling actually comes into the house all the way to the master socket (Openreach moved the master socket about 4 years ago), all working well! but every time the dogs go near the front window the internet goes off (no connection in router admin panel). The cabling goes under the bottom of the window, its tucked under the laminate flooring with a plastic cover over it.

So I've taken the cover off this morning and, nothing obvious to me! If I touch the cable etc its still connected but the second the dogs go round there, off it goes. Doing my head in now, trying to work 12 hour shifts from home. I was expecting the cable to be tight somewhere so every time they put pressure on it, it pulls tight but that isn't the case.


Wish Gigafast would hurry up so can get rid of this wiring!




So the master socket is to the left of picture 1, to the right of picture 2 the cabling then goes back onto skirting board and then through the wall to the outside world.

Checked the master socket as well, all nice and sturdy. No loose connections etc.

Rojibo

1,747 posts

107 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Is the cable an extension off the master? Or is it an Ethernet cable off the modem?

If it’s an extension it’s just standard twisted pair, it’s very easy to replace, and cheap. Would be the first thing I do.

AJB88

Original Poster:

15,912 posts

201 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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I will use a birds eye view of the house to try to explain.



The red dot is where the cabling comes into the house, originally that was the master socket. Then the gold colour line was an extension that goes into the corner of living room where the green dot is.

A few years ago openreach came out to fix a crackly phone line, they rewired where it comes in the house, but they moved the master socket to the green dot, so it used the existing extension to connect the old master socket and the new one.

The dog chewed the gold coloured line, that has been replaced so its all completely new between red and green.

Rojibo

1,747 posts

107 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Ah, right, thanks I think I misunderstood a touch there.

So is the DSL Modem/Router plugged into the new master socket? And when the dogs go near it’s losing sync? Or is the router plugged into an extension off the master?

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

206 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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The only thing I can think of is, if the dogs are chipped maybe their RFID tags are somehow causing a disturbance.

After a quick search it seems RFID definitely does cause interference in some circumtances:

https://www.corerfid.com/rfid-technology/technolog...

You could do a quick test by putting some silver foil down over the cable, it might act as a shield when the dogs are near. If not, either silver foil is a crap shield or the dogs are actually robots.



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ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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Coincidence

AJB88

Original Poster:

15,912 posts

201 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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Wouldn't call it coincidence when it happens every time, its just 1 dog out of 2.

Vodafone router is straight into master socket from there.

Rojibo

1,747 posts

107 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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Do you have any extension plugged into the master?

If so the first thing I would do is take the face plate off the master to disconnect the extension temporarily and plug the router directly into the socket behind the faceplate.

If that doesn’t fix the issue I would look at replacing the new cable run with new, shielded cable.

98elise

32,751 posts

191 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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It's the only way....


hotchy

4,830 posts

156 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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98elise said:
It's the only way....

Honestly burst out laughing at that picture and look like a tube because iv meant to be working haha

My tv used to loose all aerial signal as soon as I turned my playstation on. Got a more expensive hdmi with more shielding and it never lost it again. Wrap in tinfoil.

ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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AJB88 said:
Wouldn't call it coincidence when it happens every time, its just 1 dog out of 2.

Vodafone router is straight into master socket from there.
It's a coincidence or a magic dog.
Outside chance of it being dns

AJB88

Original Poster:

15,912 posts

201 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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Well its just strange, can pick the Husky up and place her next to the window no issues, pick the other one up and place next the window and within 20 seconds, red light.

There's no extensions off the master socket. Router is direct from master socket.

Trustmeimadoctor

14,370 posts

185 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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Not related but I had a fabia vrs many years ago and the keys used to disable WiFi everytime I unlocked the car pissed my parents off as it obviously went off every time I went out

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

206 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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Does the non-husky have shorter legs than the husky?

AJB88

Original Poster:

15,912 posts

201 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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ReverendCounter said:
Does the non-husky have shorter legs than the husky?
Nope hes a lot taller and hes a puppy.

Sgt Bilko

1,929 posts

245 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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Sounds daft but is the puppy “fluffier”? Young dog with ton of energy maybe generating a static field. Not sure how to test it but can you pick the dog up a ground you both on something or maybe spray a light mist of water over it’s coat and check?

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

206 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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AJB88 said:
Nope hes a lot taller and hes a puppy.
Maybe he has a stronger, newer chip that's giving off bigger vibes than his bro/sephine.

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

206 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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I like this thread, its fkING NUTS!

bristolracer

5,952 posts

179 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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If its some kind of rf problem you could replace the cable with some shielded cat 5 (maybe dog 5 would be more appropriate)

ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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The strength of RF interference needed to disrupt adsl would be absolutely crazy to be coming from anything in your house, let alone a pet.
If I was going to go down this rabbit hole, I'd be wondering if the dog had a thick coat that was particularly prone to static?
But I'm not so I am sticking with it's DNS.