Can I sell my car on PCP?
Can I sell my car on PCP?
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TheRingDing

Original Poster:

97 posts

125 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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I'm a little confused and wondering if someone can help!

I am currently about 18 months into a PCP with BMW and would like to know what my options are. The car is an M140i, with £24,000 left to pay off. I've seen very similar cars online going for about £25,000/£26,000.

Am I able to just stick the car online, and when someone buys it, use that money to pay off the PCP? Or do I have to pay off the PCP before putting it online?

I've also seen people talking about having to wait until you're at least halfway through the agreement, but I don't understand why if I can sell the car for more than the settlement figure?

Thanks!

Simpo Two

92,708 posts

294 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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Might not be relevant but I once bought a Mercedes that had finance on it. The keeper and myself agreed the total sale price for the car; I paid the final balance to the finance company and the remainder to him. They obviously didn't mind where the money came from.

TonyTony

1,882 posts

187 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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I think what you are saying is legal.

Your problem is convincing a stranger to give you £24k, you can leave them the car keys but until you pay that money to the finance company, they don't own that car.

Camelot1971

2,851 posts

195 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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Speak to your finance company, get a settlement figure and get the buyer to pay them directly. Any surplus is yours. It's probably easier to sell to a dealer if you can get what you want for the car though.

The 50% rule is handing the car back via voluntary termination. You have to have paid off at least 50% of the total amount, including any balloon payment. You generally don't get to that point though until you are most of the way through a PCP, unless you put down a large deposit.

Driver101

14,451 posts

150 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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£25-26k for an 18 month old M140i? Are you using main dealer prices for your comparison?


Dimebars

1,078 posts

123 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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You can sell the car whenever you like. Technically, the finance company own it, but you have no issues selling first and paying off what you owe afterwards.

The easiest way to do this would be have the buyer pay the finance settlement direct and any surplus to you. Don't let the car leave until the finance company confirm they have received the payment.

You can exit the agreement without penalty - voluntary termination - once you have paid half the total payable under the agreement. This figure will include any deposits paid up front.

Your first thing to do is request a settlement figure if you haven't already. The second thing to do is check we buy any car and the like for an accurate trade value. Just because Autotrader has them at £26k doesn't mean yours will sell for the same

GregK2

1,723 posts

175 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Just advertise it as having finance outstanding that will need to be cleared by the buyer. See it all the time.

alistair1234

1,136 posts

175 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Dimebars said:
The easiest way to do this would be have the buyer pay the finance settlement direct and any surplus to you. Don't let the car leave until the finance company confirm they have received the payment.
Do this, I did it when buying my M135i. Rang bmw finance together, paid over the phone and then paid surplus to seller.

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

160 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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alistair1234 said:
Do this, I did it when buying my M135i. Rang bmw finance together, paid over the phone and then paid surplus to seller.
I did similar when buying a car with outstanding finance, we called the finance company and got a settlement figure which I paid, and the seller then handed me the keys. Theres always a risk, but I called the finance compass myself beforehand and arranged the call, and knew who to ask for to make the final payment.

The other thing that helped was that I was twice the size of the seller, and much younger. Even if he had some special fighting skills, I was still confident biggrin

Auto810graphy

1,611 posts

121 months

Thursday 10th September 2020
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GregK2 said:
Just advertise it as having finance outstanding that will need to be cleared by the buyer. See it all the time.
Most cars are on some form of finance so no point advertising the fact as it will make people think they can pull your pants down on the price.

As mentioned, get an up to date settlement figure and ask the buyer to make a faster bank payment for the outstanding, this protects both parties, just get the finance company to confirm they have received the funds.

Driver101

14,451 posts

150 months

Thursday 10th September 2020
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Auto810graphy said:
GregK2 said:
Just advertise it as having finance outstanding that will need to be cleared by the buyer. See it all the time.
Most cars are on some form of finance so no point advertising the fact as it will make people think they can pull your pants down on the price.

As mentioned, get an up to date settlement figure and ask the buyer to make a faster bank payment for the outstanding, this protects both parties, just get the finance company to confirm they have received the funds.
They have to know the car has finance prior to buying it. There is no point not mentioning it. Let buyers know in advance there is a obstacle to overcome.

Hide the finance and you'll lose the confidence of some buyers once they find out.





Edited by Driver101 on Thursday 10th September 20:31

towser44

4,193 posts

144 months

Thursday 10th September 2020
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Driver101 said:
Auto810graphy said:
GregK2 said:
Just advertise it as having finance outstanding that will need to be cleared by the buyer. See it all the time.
Most cars are on some form of finance so no point advertising the fact as it will make people think they can pull your pants down on the price.

As mentioned, get an up to date settlement figure and ask the buyer to make a faster bank payment for the outstanding, this protects both parties, just get the finance company to confirm they have received the funds.
They have to know the car has finance prior to buying it. There is no point not mentioning it. Let buyers know in advance there is a obstacle to overcome.

Hide the finance and you'll lose the confidence of some buyers once they find out.





Edited by Driver101 on Thursday 10th September 20:31
As above, they'll see it on a HPI check anyway (which I would do if buying a 25k car) so why hide it

Sir Bagalot

7,089 posts

210 months

Thursday 10th September 2020
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Simpo Two said:
Might not be relevant but I once bought a Mercedes that had finance on it. The keeper and myself agreed the total sale price for the car; I paid the final balance to the finance company and the remainder to him. They obviously didn't mind where the money came from.
BMW Finance don't permit that. The account holder has to pay.

rfoster

1,482 posts

283 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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Sir Bagalot said:
BMW Finance don't permit that. The account holder has to pay.
They don't accept payment from a third party by card - but they do accept bank transfer from anyone in settlement of the agreement.