F1: From Revolting to Revolt?

[Andy M]

After last weekends shenanigans, is the F1 circus heading for a revolt?

ITV-F1's 'The Mole' certainly thinks so: http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type=The_Mole&PO_ID=33238

How likely do we think this is to happen? Bernie turning his back on Mosley and Ferrari would be huge would it not?

It's always been said that F1 couldn't survive without Ferrari, but I don't see why not. Who needs who more? If Ferrari were to 'leave' F1, what would be their chosen path?

Despite being a Ferrari fan - of sorts, more a M.Schumacher fan - I'd be ecstatic to see Bernie and the result of the field (be it with or without Jordan - are they being lined up for Ferrari engines next season?!) turn their backs on Ferrari and the FIA. It's time both were brought back to earth with a bump. Not simply due to last weeks fiasco (which I'm still of the opinion that Ferrari are little to blame), but due to the ridiculous decisions and bias over the last few years.

Bernie's hardly innocent in all of this, but I'd still love to see him rebel. :)

[dilbert]

Crikey, that's almost my suggested scenario from a week back.

Schumacher getting a race of all his own, and the others going elsewhere and having a race we can all enjoy again!



Edited to add;

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=187399&f=42&h=0&p=11



>> Edited by dilbert on Saturday 25th June 01:38

[LongQ]

Andy M said:

I'd be ecstatic to see Bernie and the result of the field (be it with or without Jordan - are they being lined up for Ferrari engines next season?!)

I thought it was Red Bull Racing Rumoured to be getting the feRrari engines?

And thinking about engines - would the rebels go with the 2.4 V8's or stay with what they have today?

>> Edited by LongQ on Saturday 25th June 18:06

[flemke]

LongQ said:

I thought it was Red Bull Racing Rumoured to be getting the feRrari engines?

That was confirmed about a month ago.
The scuttlebutt available to laymen such as I has been that RBR and Midland, each for its own reasons, would end up siding with the FIA and Ferrari, and the other seven would hang together for at least a while longer.

[rubystone]

No chance of that happening - Bernie would have to sue the teams in order to pay the promoter of the race for failing to put a minimum of 18 cars on the grid. The teams' sponsors probably have performance clauses in their contracts that could affect the regular payments streams or even the ongoing sponsorship.

Plus the FIA would easily be able to invoke any number of clauses in the Concorde agreement, including the one that the teams are facing next Wednesday.

[flemke]

rubystone said:

No chance of that happening - Bernie would have to sue the teams in order to pay the promoter of the race for failing to put a minimum of 18 cars on the grid. The teams' sponsors probably have performance clauses in their contracts that could affect the regular payments streams or even the ongoing sponsorship. Plus the FIA would easily be able to invoke any number of clauses in the Concorde agreement, including the one that the teams are facing next Wednesday.

Sorry, no chance of what happening?

[rubystone]

The teams no running at Magny Cours or boycotting any other races for the next 2 seasons

[flemke]

Right. Indeed it would appear that the reason that at Indy they took to the grid and ran the installation lap was legalistic - to establish that they began the event. This would have made any subsequent attempt at punitive action by sponsors or by Club Max much more difficult to enforce.
The teams want to race and, as you say, for financial reasons they are compelled to race. They didn't compete last weekend because of a form of force majeure that was never expected.
To collude not to race for a political reason would be a different matter altogether. Unfortunately.