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Never rated them really, and the repetitive playing of their single pissed me off but, watched them last night on Glasto and thought there was a touch of genius there, raw, powerful and earthy. Maybe a touch too much firewater imbibed so to temper the balance switched over to watch the Killers and........no The Stripes are way ahead of this current glut of Kasabian, Kaiser Chiefs, Snow Patrol, Coldplay, Franz Ferdinand sound alikes, bloody ripping stuff!
Kinda feel the opposite.Quite rated the stripes,always particularly liked 'unsettling' bands. Was interested to see how they were live.About 15 mins into the set I had this unshakeable niggle that they were just 'wrong'.Nothing I could really put my finger on,perhaps too much '70s roadhouse blues.
I have watched a bit of Glastonbury and my overwhelming feeling is that there are very very few good bands live. Yes the stipes were okay but was that because the others were so bad? If you are old enough to remember live Aid there were several bands on then who performed almost identical to their recorded sound. Queen for example exploded onto the set and really performed as did George Micheal, Bowie, status quo but Pual young was so bad you can still smell the stink. These new bands really do sound good on CD but live some cannot hold a note at all. We all have different views on what good music is but to me an ability to be tuneful is a good start. It to me is sad that there is some terrific music being written if only there were artists who could do it justice live.
Aaahhh...but surely this is because modern bands (and I make no excuse for the generalisation) don't have the grounding in live performance.
I think this is for two reasons.
1. Lack of venues putting on new talent. (Pubs seem to specialise in 'Tribute' bands and duos singing 'the classics'
).
2. Ease of recorded sound. Putting out a demo is so much easier than when vinyl was the only option that bands become well known more quickly.
3. (OK three reasons
) Hype means that bands play bigger venues (probably for status reasons) therefore fewer gigs.
At the risk of sounding like an old git (oops, too late) I remember seeing bands on Friday nights in tiny venues for the price of about 5 pints that were on TOTP the previous Thursday, and were then playing consecutive nights at various venues across England over the next couple of weeks. Does that happen any more??
RANTING HIJACK OVER. Sorry.
I think this is for two reasons.
1. Lack of venues putting on new talent. (Pubs seem to specialise in 'Tribute' bands and duos singing 'the classics'
). 2. Ease of recorded sound. Putting out a demo is so much easier than when vinyl was the only option that bands become well known more quickly.
3. (OK three reasons
) Hype means that bands play bigger venues (probably for status reasons) therefore fewer gigs. At the risk of sounding like an old git (oops, too late) I remember seeing bands on Friday nights in tiny venues for the price of about 5 pints that were on TOTP the previous Thursday, and were then playing consecutive nights at various venues across England over the next couple of weeks. Does that happen any more??
RANTING HIJACK OVER. Sorry.
Ferg said:
Aaahhh...but surely this is because modern bands (and I make no excuse for the generalisation) don't have the grounding in live performance.
I think this is for two reasons.
1. Lack of venues putting on new talent. (Pubs seem to specialise in 'Tribute' bands and duos singing 'the classics'
2. Ease of recorded sound. Putting out a demo is so much easier than when vinyl was the only option that bands become well known more quickly.
3. (OK three reasons
At the risk of sounding like an old git (oops, too late) I remember seeing bands on Friday nights in tiny venues for the price of about 5 pints that were on TOTP the previous Thursday, and were then playing consecutive nights at various venues across England over the next couple of weeks. Does that happen any more??
RANTING HIJACK OVER. Sorry.
Yes I think you are absolutly right. On top of the list you gave there is also the fact that everything about the music industry is instant, there is no nurturing of talent until they become performers. They bang out the same old formula, and when someone comes along who are different and sucessful, like Coldplay, what do we get, Keane, Athelete, to cash in whilst the genre is alive one maybe two albums and off back to the uni bar scene.
Zod said:And then they had the temirity to complain how the crowd didn't receive them well!!!
I like the White Stripes, but have to keep the doses small.
As for crap, did you see Babyshambles? What a talentless cock that man, Pete Doherty, is.
>> Edited by Zod on Saturday 25th June 12:04
They were utter pants
I don't think i've ever seen a band worse live than on record, apart from The Killers, who were very very dissapointing. Brandon Flowers cannot sing for shit. I saw Babyshambles last year at the Ritz in Manchester, and they were highly entertaining. I think theyre a band for getting drunk and jumping around too in a grimy little toilet venue, not a festival band. I'd disagree with the argument that bands nowadays can't play as well live; live shows undeniably have a different atmosphere and sound, but they are almost always more exciting.
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