JOGLE EV record
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anonymous-user

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76 months

Sunday 13th September 2020
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Zero Carbon World team has run a Tesla 3 from John O'Groats to Land's End

855.2 miles in 15h 46' with 1h 31' 32" charging

https://twitter.com/ZeroCarbonWorld/status/1304906...


LG9k

448 posts

244 months

Sunday 13th September 2020
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My maths makes that an average moving speed of about 60mph. That's very impressive on today's congested roads. Maybe the lack of traffic due to covid helped?

SWoll

21,667 posts

280 months

Sunday 13th September 2020
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Model 3 Performance with big aftermarket wheels as well. Had they used an LR with 18" Aero's they'd have done it even quicker as would have required even less charging?

Mikehig

951 posts

83 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
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LG9k said:
My maths makes that an average moving speed of about 60mph. That's very impressive on today's congested roads. Maybe the lack of traffic due to covid helped?
Especially since a good part of the journey must have been on normal roads with a limit of 60 mph.....along with navigating various towns/bypasses with much lower limits.
Makes me think of the "Cannonball Run" - the real one, not the Hollywood buffooonery.
Kudos anyway.

Heres Johnny

8,016 posts

146 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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3 Ionity chargers used and only 1 Tesla supercharger.

Given the people going for the record that may have been deliberate but it still shows the superchargers are no longer the only show in town.


SWoll

21,667 posts

280 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Heres Johnny said:
3 Ionity chargers used and only 1 Tesla supercharger.

Given the people going for the record that may have been deliberate but it still shows the superchargers are no longer the only show in town.
I don't think anyone has said they are the only option? They're just a far more reliable and easy to use solution than relying on third party chargers.

I did approx 600 miles last weekend in our Model 3 travelling down to Devon and back and supercharged on 3 occasions without issue. On 2 of those occasions (charging at Gordano) when driving past the Ionity chargers they were both in use with additional EV's waiting which would obviously have caused us a significant delay, and unlike superchargers I would have had no way of knowing this without coming off the motorway to check.

Obviously the number of third party chargers will improve but then so will the number of non Tesla EV's on the road?

ZesPak

26,002 posts

218 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Heres Johnny said:
3 Ionity chargers used and only 1 Tesla supercharger.

Given the people going for the record that may have been deliberate but it still shows the superchargers are no longer the only show in town.
For which EVERYONE is happy.
Literally no one would give a negative twist on this.

hyphen

26,262 posts

112 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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JPJPJP said:
855.2 miles in 15h 46' with 1h 31' 32" charging
Ice cars can do more than 855.2 miles wihout refueling, so what is the achievement here? Surely you need to post when range gets to 855.2 on a single charge.

An 4.2 V8 Audi S5 did it in 9 hours by the way https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/28/record...


And it sounded good doing it, unlike the EV hehe



Edited by hyphen on Thursday 17th September 08:15

ZesPak

26,002 posts

218 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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hyphen said:
Ice cars can do more than 855.2 miles wihout refueling, so what is the achievement here? Surely you need to post when range gets to 855.2 on a single charge.


hehe
855.2 Miles on 50 quid?

hyphen

26,262 posts

112 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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ZesPak said:
855.2 Miles on 50 quid?
Yes, you just need to go slow wink
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1127043/...

SWoll

21,667 posts

280 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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hyphen said:
JPJPJP said:
855.2 miles in 15h 46' with 1h 31' 32" charging
Ice cars can do more than 855.2 miles wihout refueling, so what is the achievement here? Surely you need to post when range gets to 855.2 on a single charge.

An Audi S5 did it in 9 hours by the way https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/28/record...


hehe

Edited by hyphen on Thursday 17th September 08:07
You really are a muppet at times. smile

JD

3,085 posts

250 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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hyphen said:
Ice cars can do more than 855.2 miles wihout refueling, so what is the achievement here? Surely you need to post when range gets to 855.2 on a single charge.

An 4.2 V8 Audi S5 did it in 9 hours by the way https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/28/record...


And it sounded good doing it, unlike the EV hehe



Edited by hyphen on Thursday 17th September 08:15
It didn’t do it on one tank of fuel though?

hyphen

26,262 posts

112 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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JD said:
It didn’t do it on one tank of fuel though?
Yes, but 5 min fuel stops are irrelevant, and medically you need to stop every so often so you don't lose concentration.

I think in not too long we probably will have an EV that can do this journey in minimal stops, but this particular crowing is irrelavant.

JD

3,085 posts

250 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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hyphen said:
Yes, but 5 min fuel stops are irrelevant, and medically you need to stop every so often so you don't lose concentration.

I think in not too long we probably will have an EV that can do this journey in minimal stops, but this particular crowing is irrelavant.
Are you having an argument with yourself?

This exactly demonstrates you can do the journey in minimal stops!

But you say this is irrelevant, but someone doing it in an ice car on 5 tanks of fuel is?

ZesPak

26,002 posts

218 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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hyphen said:
ZesPak said:
855.2 Miles on 50 quid?
Yes, you just need to go slow wink
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1127043/...
sooo...

You just posted a link to an article that points out that the cheapest they could do in an ICE is still 20% more expensive than a 500hp EV?
And that disproves my point somehow?

hyphen

26,262 posts

112 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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JD said:
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This exactly demonstrates you can do the journey in minimal stops!
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It says they did "1 hour 31minutes charge time" and 4 charging stops. Charging time, being the misleading measure.

So each stop probably took 20 minutes of parking up and plugging in and making payment and another 10 minutes unplugging and driving off?

Chances are they also had to go a little off route to find the chargers as well?

An ice fuel stop takes minimal time, and no going off route.


SpeckledJim

32,356 posts

275 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Mikehig said:
LG9k said:
My maths makes that an average moving speed of about 60mph. That's very impressive on today's congested roads. Maybe the lack of traffic due to covid helped?
Especially since a good part of the journey must have been on normal roads with a limit of 60 mph.....along with navigating various towns/bypasses with much lower limits.
Makes me think of the "Cannonball Run" - the real one, not the Hollywood buffooonery.
Kudos anyway.
If they managed an average of 60, then I expect they were doing >90 wherever physically possible (so much of the non-motorway route in Scotland) and to hell with a posted 60 limit.

Some interesting maths to find the optimum cruising speed balancing covering ground with the impact on range.

hyphen

26,262 posts

112 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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ZesPak said:
sooo...

You just posted a link to an article that points out that the cheapest they could do in an ICE is still 20% more expensive than a 500hp EV?
And that disproves my point somehow?
A used ice costs pennies to buy.
A Tesla is 40k+.

It's the spending lots of money to save a little money argument again.

ZesPak

26,002 posts

218 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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hyphen said:
It says they "1 hour 31minutes charge time" and 4 charging stops.

So each stop probably took 20 minutes of parking up and plugging in and making payment and another 10 minutes unplugging and driving off?

Chances are they also had to go a little off route to find the chargers as well?
Yeah, I'd say they did multiple stops of 20 minutes top?
I just had a look and google maps (direct route) vs ABRP (with chargers) give me the exact same miles (840).
So I'd say they didn't have to go out of their way to find a charger.

JD

3,085 posts

250 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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hyphen said:
It says they did "1 hour 31minutes charge time" and 4 charging stops. Charging time, being the misleading measure.

So each stop probably took 20 minutes of parking up and plugging in and making payment and another 10 minutes unplugging and driving off?

Chances are they also had to go a little off route to find the chargers as well?

An ice fuel stop takes minimal time, and no going off route.
Yes it definitely took them 20 mins to park a car, and another 10 mins to unplug a cable each time.

And still they managed to do the journey in the exact same time google maps suggests for an ice car.