Dropped kerb question

[foxbody-87]

Does the parking restriction regarding dropped kerbs apply to only the ‘flat’ area of the kerb or does it also apply to the ‘ramp’ sections at the end?

Our driveway has a dropped kerb slightly wider than the drive with ramped ends and people park half on the pavement often with the “arse end” of their vehicle over the ramped section. Although no part of the car is directly across the drive it makes visibility so poor it is beginning to verge on dangerous. Especially when the vehicle in question is a van or a large car, of which our neighbour has 7.

Do I have any grounds for leaving a strongly worded note or am I pissing into the wind?

I’m so sorely tempted to buy a road legal banger and leave it three feet back from the dropped kerb for months.

Edited by foxbody-87 on Sunday 13th September 17:41

[RATATTAK]

WHAT IS CONSIDERED DROPPED KERB OBSTRUCTION
Dropped kerb parking
The extent at which obstruction is considered as a contravention code 27 of parking adjacent to a dropped footway includes the height transition kerb stones between the lower and higher part of the kerb as detailed in the diagram to the right.
https://www.drivingtesttips.biz/dropped-kerb-parki...

[V8RX7]

foxbody-87 said:

Do I have any grounds for leaving a strongly worded note or am I pissing into the wind?

Leaving a note for a neighbour never ends well - try talking to him

or parking your car over his dropped kerbs

[foxbody-87]

Excellent, thank you

[RATATTAK]

Why not park your own car where your neighbour parks hers for a few days ? That may make her think; or perhaps not if she's thick

Edited by RATATTAK on Sunday 13th September 19:49

[foxbody-87]

RATATTAK said:

Why not park your own car where your neighbour parks hers for a few days ? That may make her think; or perhaps not if she's thick

Edited by RATATTAK on Sunday 13th September 19:49

If I get home early enough I park it next to my drive but a few feet back from the drop kerb so at least my wife can see when she’s coming off the drive. There’s still enough room for a car behind me too.
I can’t help but feel the best solution is the permanent addition of a £500 runaround set back from the drive and claim ignorance as to who’s it is.

[MikeM6]

foxbody-87 said:

If I get home early enough I park it next to my drive but a few feet back from the drop kerb so at least my wife can see when she’s coming off the drive. There’s still enough room for a car behind me too.
I can’t help but feel the best solution is the permanent addition of a £500 runaround set back from the drive and claim ignorance as to who’s it is.

It would have to be taxed and insured though, if it is on the road

[foxbody-87]

anonymous said:

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Well if the dropped kerb restrictions apply to the ramp portion of the kerb, at a guess I’d say 600mm although I’d have to measure it for you to be exact.

Point is this - if there is a dropped kerb that people shouldn’t be parking over but they are and in doing so create visibility issues for me, am I being unreasonable in challenging an unreasonable behaviour?

Edited by foxbody-87 on Sunday 13th September 21:57

[Jag_NE]

foxbody-87 said:

anonymous said:

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Well if the dropped kerb restrictions apply to the ramp portion of the kerb, at a guess I’d say 600mm although I’d have to measure it for you to be exact.

Point is this - if there is a dropped kerb that people shouldn’t be parking over but they are and in doing so create visibility issues for me, am I being unreasonable in challenging an unreasonable behaviour?

Edited by foxbody-87 on Sunday 13th September 21:57

You are not. But do ask yourself if there really is a visibility issue or if you are really motivated to avoid someone encroaching on your virtual turf. The latter, although annoying for many, is unfortunately in the tough st category.

[RATATTAK]

Matter of fact: Standard kerbs are 914mm long.

[Oceanrower]

anonymous said:

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If you have a space an hour's drive wide you own most of the home counties....

[leyorkie]

Don’t forget that if there is no car on the drive then parking in front of a drop curb is permitted

[RATATTAK]

leyorkie said:

Don’t forget that if there is no car on the drive then parking in front of a drop curb is permitted

Source of information ?

[NGee]

leyorkie said:

Don’t forget that if there is no car on the drive then parking in front of a drop curb is permitted

Just because it is 'permitted' does not mean it is morally or socially acceptable.

[Twig62]

leyorkie said:

Don’t forget that if there is no car on the drive then parking in front of a drop curb is permitted

Wrong. It is an offence to obstruct a dropped kerb regardless of whether or not there is a vehicle on the drive.

[mac96]

Twig62 said:

leyorkie said:

Don’t forget that if there is no car on the drive then parking in front of a drop curb is permitted

Wrong. It is an offence to obstruct a dropped kerb regardless of whether or not there is a vehicle on the drive.

From my own experience of having my drive blocked like this, (some years ago so may be out of date) police are keener to ticket vehicles which are blocking the drive owner in,because this is such an obviously plonkerish thing to do, than ones that are blocking him out, especially if the drive owner can just park on the road still the obstruction moves. That is probably how this confusion arises- priorities, not law.

[vonhosen]

mac96 said:

Twig62 said:

leyorkie said:

Don’t forget that if there is no car on the drive then parking in front of a drop curb is permitted

Wrong. It is an offence to obstruct a dropped kerb regardless of whether or not there is a vehicle on the drive.

From my own experience of having my drive blocked like this, (some years ago so may be out of date) police are keener to ticket vehicles which are blocking the drive owner in,because this is such an obviously plonkerish thing to do, than ones that are blocking him out, especially if the drive owner can just park on the road still the obstruction moves. That is probably how this confusion arises- priorities, not law.

There are different ways fo dealing with it.
Police tend to deal with unnecessary obstruction (FPN) & as such will deal with vehicles unable to access the highway, however council parking enforcement will deal with parking across a dropped kerb (PCN).

[littlebasher]

Can you still pay councils to have one of those white H gates painted in front of the drive?



Certainly used to be an option and is an effective 'visible' deterrent

[leyorkie]

It’s a grey area. It is a Highway Code rule not to obstruct but how do you know that the dropped kerb is in use
Try getting the police involved in practice your stuck with it.

In true PH style all my cars are parked off road

[Mr_Megalomaniac]

foxbody-87 said:

Especially when the vehicle in question is a van or a large car, of which our neighbour has 7.

Edited by foxbody-87 on Sunday 13th September 17:41

I have noticed something on this. I have some neighbours on our development who are, shall we say, less financially stable than most. I have heard the council pays their rent to be here anyway. But they have 5 cars, and a small motorcycle. That's 6xinsurance, 6xMOT, 6xTax. Surely that adds up.
Interestingly they also have 5 dogs and a very small yard. So the dog urine killed the lawn, which then had to be replacedd (at the council's expense).

Despite being a massive petrolhead, I haven't worked out what makes a person have 6 vehicles and 5 pets whilst struggling.