Do parents really care about their children
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Over 2020 we've seen a few new trends but the one that seems to be sticking and one I reckon will see a death or serious injury before year end is children riding around on electrical scooters without lights or helmets.
It's an accident waiting to happen but why aren't parents making their kids put lights on the scooter or wear a helmet. Last night a kid zipped past us wearing a black hoodie through a red light where ironically a Uber eats bike deliver with no lights nearly took him out. At what must of been 20mph+ I just sat back and winced.
What is wrong with parents. I even see families out together all without helmets riding on the pavement or weaving on the road.... Then those same people get all upset when the inevitable happens.... No sorry go to the back of the sympathy queue.
It's an accident waiting to happen but why aren't parents making their kids put lights on the scooter or wear a helmet. Last night a kid zipped past us wearing a black hoodie through a red light where ironically a Uber eats bike deliver with no lights nearly took him out. At what must of been 20mph+ I just sat back and winced.
What is wrong with parents. I even see families out together all without helmets riding on the pavement or weaving on the road.... Then those same people get all upset when the inevitable happens.... No sorry go to the back of the sympathy queue.
CooperS said:
Over 2020 we've seen a few new trends but the one that seems to be sticking and one I reckon will see a death or serious injury before year end is children riding around on electrical scooters without lights or helmets.
It's an accident waiting to happen but why aren't parents making their kids put lights on the scooter or wear a helmet. Last night a kid zipped past us wearing a black hoodie through a red light where ironically a Uber eats bike deliver with no lights nearly took him out. At what must of been 20mph+ I just sat back and winced.
What is wrong with parents. I even see families out together all without helmets riding on the pavement or weaving on the road.... Then those same people get all upset when the inevitable happens.... No sorry go to the back of the sympathy queue.
When I was 7, my parents bought me a motocross bike, and I used to ride it around the farm flat out, and build jumps out of large planks of wood and piles of building blocks. They also regularly took us all on skiing holidays and encouraged us to learn to ski (Skiing being one of the most dangerous hobbies you can have).It's an accident waiting to happen but why aren't parents making their kids put lights on the scooter or wear a helmet. Last night a kid zipped past us wearing a black hoodie through a red light where ironically a Uber eats bike deliver with no lights nearly took him out. At what must of been 20mph+ I just sat back and winced.
What is wrong with parents. I even see families out together all without helmets riding on the pavement or weaving on the road.... Then those same people get all upset when the inevitable happens.... No sorry go to the back of the sympathy queue.
Yet now that I'm in my 40's they still claim to fret about my safety, and are worried if I go on holiday to somewhere they deem 'slightly unsafe' or own a classic car that has no seatbelts.
Make of that what you will.
Im not someone who believes in wrapping kids in cotton wool.
Like you I was Mountain Biking with my mates at a relatively early age or inline skating jumping down stairs. But when it came to all these things I had it drilled into me to be safe as you can be and enjoy...
I see these kids with no protection, no awareness of the road just being a danger to others.
Something hand on heart say I don't think I was. But that was my parents drilling into me those important life lessons .
Like you I was Mountain Biking with my mates at a relatively early age or inline skating jumping down stairs. But when it came to all these things I had it drilled into me to be safe as you can be and enjoy...
I see these kids with no protection, no awareness of the road just being a danger to others.
Something hand on heart say I don't think I was. But that was my parents drilling into me those important life lessons .
Lord Marylebone said:
When I was 7, my parents bought me a motocross bike, and I used to ride it around the farm flat out, and build jumps out of large planks of wood and piles of building blocks. They also regularly took us all on skiing holidays and encouraged us to learn to ski (Skiing being one of the most dangerous hobbies you can have).
Yet now that I'm in my 40's they still claim to fret about my safety, and are worried if I go on holiday to somewhere they deem 'slightly unsafe' or own a classic car that has no seatbelts.
Make of that what you will.
Recreational skiing isn't that bad for non-recoverable injuries. There's a reasonable chance of damaging knee ligaments and a small chance of breaking bones, both of which will recover completely when young but the odds of dying or ending up a vegetable are quite low. Horse riding on the other hand has a very high incidence of serious injuries and deaths but is the sport of choice for well-to-do girls.Yet now that I'm in my 40's they still claim to fret about my safety, and are worried if I go on holiday to somewhere they deem 'slightly unsafe' or own a classic car that has no seatbelts.
Make of that what you will.
Allowing children to learn about risk when they are young and the consequences are relatively minor is a key part of parenting which seems to have gone out of fashion lately. Parents should be stopping their children from dying or suffering life changing injuries but knocks, scrapes, crashes, minor injuries and falling in water are an essential part of learning about risk that should be encouraged not prevented.
TurboHatchback said:
Lord Marylebone said:
When I was 7, my parents bought me a motocross bike, and I used to ride it around the farm flat out, and build jumps out of large planks of wood and piles of building blocks. They also regularly took us all on skiing holidays and encouraged us to learn to ski (Skiing being one of the most dangerous hobbies you can have).
Yet now that I'm in my 40's they still claim to fret about my safety, and are worried if I go on holiday to somewhere they deem 'slightly unsafe' or own a classic car that has no seatbelts.
Make of that what you will.
Recreational skiing isn't that bad for non-recoverable injuries. There's a reasonable chance of damaging knee ligaments and a small chance of breaking bones, both of which will recover completely when young but the odds of dying or ending up a vegetable are quite low. Horse riding on the other hand has a very high incidence of serious injuries and deaths but is the sport of choice for well-to-do girls.Yet now that I'm in my 40's they still claim to fret about my safety, and are worried if I go on holiday to somewhere they deem 'slightly unsafe' or own a classic car that has no seatbelts.
Make of that what you will.
Allowing children to learn about risk when they are young and the consequences are relatively minor is a key part of parenting which seems to have gone out of fashion lately. Parents should be stopping their children from dying or suffering life changing injuries but knocks, scrapes, crashes, minor injuries and falling in water are an essential part of learning about risk that should be encouraged not prevented.
My parents encouraged me to play with motorbikes, cars, off road buggies, quad bikes etc from a very early age, yet now when I ride motorbikes they freak out, lecture me on how dangerous they are, and try to nag/order me into selling them. As I said, I'm in my 40's.
If they didn't want me to fall in love with dangerous motor vehicles, they shouldn't have let me play with them as a child.
Helmets and lights are not fun
Money is better spent on fags, sky, drinking etc
Sad thing is a simple Poundland set of led lights or hibiz jacket make a massive difference
I sometimes wish the govt would give these out for free, might cost a bit initially but once the novelty has worn off the roads could be a bit safer
Money is better spent on fags, sky, drinking etc
Sad thing is a simple Poundland set of led lights or hibiz jacket make a massive difference
I sometimes wish the govt would give these out for free, might cost a bit initially but once the novelty has worn off the roads could be a bit safer
Lord Marylebone said:
I agree, but to a certain extent you reap what you sow.
My parents encouraged me to play with motorbikes, cars, off road buggies, quad bikes etc from a very early age, yet now when I ride motorbikes they freak out, lecture me on how dangerous they are, and try to nag/order me into selling them. As I said, I'm in my 40's.
If they didn't want me to fall in love with dangerous motor vehicles, they shouldn't have let me play with them as a child.
Being fairly blunt, perhaps faced with their own mortality their perspective of risk has changed somewhat, as is fairly standard for most humans. They're doing exactly the same thing they did when you were younger, which is to say "what they think is best".My parents encouraged me to play with motorbikes, cars, off road buggies, quad bikes etc from a very early age, yet now when I ride motorbikes they freak out, lecture me on how dangerous they are, and try to nag/order me into selling them. As I said, I'm in my 40's.
If they didn't want me to fall in love with dangerous motor vehicles, they shouldn't have let me play with them as a child.
On topic, Darwinism I guess
Ive got three girls, we havent had any of those stupid stairgates, kids do actually have a sense of self preservation and learn quickly. They've also got a few of those electric bike things, helmets are usually used to carry bits of toys.
I could worry about them daily and i do, but its more general, im not going to keep them wrapped in cotton wool and a few kneee grazes along with way is a good enough learning curve. Just need one of them to show a better aptitude for motorsports then i can kick off the karting. Cant see it happening though.
I could worry about them daily and i do, but its more general, im not going to keep them wrapped in cotton wool and a few kneee grazes along with way is a good enough learning curve. Just need one of them to show a better aptitude for motorsports then i can kick off the karting. Cant see it happening though.
SturdyHSV said:
Lord Marylebone said:
I agree, but to a certain extent you reap what you sow.
My parents encouraged me to play with motorbikes, cars, off road buggies, quad bikes etc from a very early age, yet now when I ride motorbikes they freak out, lecture me on how dangerous they are, and try to nag/order me into selling them. As I said, I'm in my 40's.
If they didn't want me to fall in love with dangerous motor vehicles, they shouldn't have let me play with them as a child.
Being fairly blunt, perhaps faced with their own mortality their perspective of risk has changed somewhat, as is fairly standard for most humans. They're doing exactly the same thing they did when you were younger, which is to say "what they think is best".My parents encouraged me to play with motorbikes, cars, off road buggies, quad bikes etc from a very early age, yet now when I ride motorbikes they freak out, lecture me on how dangerous they are, and try to nag/order me into selling them. As I said, I'm in my 40's.
If they didn't want me to fall in love with dangerous motor vehicles, they shouldn't have let me play with them as a child.
On topic, Darwinism I guess
) as she is now too scared to go out 'less the Panda Mick jumps out and infects her or the bogey man is on the prowl!!! This is her fear and she sees no reason not to attempt transferring that anguish onto me, and others, however, she had no such qualms when I was a kid and I would be out and about at all hours, on my bike, only returning to be fed and watered.Also, when I was a lad, I was carrying sheath knives and catapults (now considered
) and airguns then shotguns at 15. Driving cars when I was 14 (off road, mostly) plus tractors and all sorts of 'dangerous' farm stuff and yet we survived.Parents wrap their kids in cotton wool these days however there is no excuse for letting them injure others by their stupidity and they rightly deserve a b
king when caught doing so!IMHO
sociopath said:
All those pedestrians without helmets, they're all going to die you know.
Do they cut about at 15mph+ in heavy traffic too?Kinetic energy in an object increases exponentially with velocity.
This may or may not be relevant.
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 14th September 16:50
CooperS said:
sociopath said:
All those pedestrians without helmets, they're all going to die you know.
Guessing you've never had someone ride into you at 15 mph. I had a tt ride into me who swerved onto the wrong side of the cycle path straight into me. It hurts. t pavements we have. The wheels are too small anf the scooters themselves too unstable for them to be stable anywhere near that speed in real lifeCooperS said:
Over 2020 we've seen a few new trends but the one that seems to be sticking and one I reckon will see a death or serious injury before year end is children riding around on electrical scooters without lights or helmets.
It's an accident waiting to happen but why aren't parents making their kids put lights on the scooter or wear a helmet. Last night a kid zipped past us wearing a black hoodie through a red light where ironically a Uber eats bike deliver with no lights nearly took him out. At what must of been 20mph+ I just sat back and winced.
What is wrong with parents. I even see families out together all without helmets riding on the pavement or weaving on the road.... Then those same people get all upset when the inevitable happens.... No sorry go to the back of the sympathy queue.
Not really the parents fault what the child does.It's an accident waiting to happen but why aren't parents making their kids put lights on the scooter or wear a helmet. Last night a kid zipped past us wearing a black hoodie through a red light where ironically a Uber eats bike deliver with no lights nearly took him out. At what must of been 20mph+ I just sat back and winced.
What is wrong with parents. I even see families out together all without helmets riding on the pavement or weaving on the road.... Then those same people get all upset when the inevitable happens.... No sorry go to the back of the sympathy queue.
Only so much nannying you can do. I never wore a helmet as a child, cos I thought I was "cool" . No matter what my Mum told me to do.
sociopath said:
No i haven't and neither have you, these scooters may, at a push, manage to reach 15mph downhill with the wind behind them on smooth tarmac, but I guarantee these kids aren't riding them at that speed on the st pavements we have. The wheels are too small anf the scooters themselves too unstable for them to be stable anywhere near that speed in real life
Kids? I nearly flattened a fully grown ft pavements we have. The wheels are too small anf the scooters themselves too unstable for them to be stable anywhere near that speed in real lifekwit the other day riding an electric scooter on the road at that sort of speed, presumably as the pavement was too crapHe swerved to avoid a manhole cover at full tilt, lost his balance and fully crossed over onto the wrong side of the road
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