Passengers stuck on plane wing on emergency
Passengers stuck on plane wing on emergency
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leef44

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5,157 posts

177 months

Friday 18th September 2020
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-541949...

This is an interesting scenario which I haven't give much thought to in the past.

In an emergency on a plane, you have the smaller emergency exits on the wing. If you exit onto the wing, I would have thought there would be an exit slide of some sort.

In this case, there is no exit slide and you are expected to jump up to 2 metres. That's not straight forward for everyone.


CambsBill

2,412 posts

202 months

Friday 18th September 2020
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Tell people they standing on top of the fuel tanks and I bet they'd decide jumping was do-able after all biggrin

alangla

6,350 posts

205 months

Friday 18th September 2020
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leef44 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-541949...

This is an interesting scenario which I haven't give much thought to in the past.

In an emergency on a plane, you have the smaller emergency exits on the wing. If you exit onto the wing, I would have thought there would be an exit slide of some sort.

In this case, there is no exit slide and you are expected to jump up to 2 metres. That's not straight forward for everyone.
On a 737, there's usually big arrows down the wing towards the flaps at the back. The flaps are meant to be extended to allow you to slide down to the ground. In this case, it seems the engines were stopped before the flaps extended & when the hydraulic pumps stopped the flaps were stuck.

Eric Mc

124,960 posts

289 months

Friday 18th September 2020
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The only "exit slides" are located at the main passenger doors.

The smaller escape hatches above the wings do not have any sort of slide attached. Passengers exit out onto the wings and may have to jump off the wing - usually on the trailing edge of the wind.

Gilbertron

163 posts

223 months

Friday 18th September 2020
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Dependant on the aircraft.

https://youtu.be/tIFCPUGBNWM

Dixy

3,508 posts

229 months

Friday 18th September 2020
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Don't jump, lie face down on the wing and slide feet first off the lowest point.

leef44

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177 months

Friday 18th September 2020
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Dixy said:
Don't jump, lie face down on the wing and slide feet first off the lowest point.
Good advice and I guess had the flaps extended then actually your feet would be very low to the ground.

essayer

10,366 posts

218 months

Friday 18th September 2020
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I like how Embraer were basically ‘it met the certification requirements, not our problem’

carl_w

10,498 posts

282 months

Friday 18th September 2020
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Some passengers re-entered the cabin?

Wills2

28,271 posts

199 months

Friday 18th September 2020
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Eric Mc said:
The only "exit slides" are located at the main passenger doors.

The smaller escape hatches above the wings do not have any sort of slide attached. Passengers exit out onto the wings and may have to jump off the wing - usually on the trailing edge of the wind.
Thanks for the wonderful insight Eric, is that post for the people who haven't been on a plane before? Or do you just enjoy stating the bleeding obvious.



The Moose

23,572 posts

233 months

Friday 18th September 2020
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Wills2 said:
Eric Mc said:
The only "exit slides" are located at the main passenger doors.

The smaller escape hatches above the wings do not have any sort of slide attached. Passengers exit out onto the wings and may have to jump off the wing - usually on the trailing edge of the wind.
Thanks for the wonderful insight Eric, is that post for the people who haven't been on a plane before? Or do you just enjoy stating the bleeding obvious.

Gotta keep that post count up winkhehe

Eric Mc

124,960 posts

289 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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I genuinely thought I was imparting some information to the OP. Sorry if that offended people.

Flooble

5,747 posts

124 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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I noticed in the news article it said that ""A lot of ladies and older people couldn't jump off,"

I can see that older people would struggle to lower themselves down the engine nacelle or similar, but is there something special about some women that stops their arms and legs working? Seems like a very odd statement.

Pit Pony

10,882 posts

145 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Flooble said:
I noticed in the news article it said that ""A lot of ladies and older people couldn't jump off,"

I can see that older people would struggle to lower themselves down the engine nacelle or similar, but is there something special about some women that stops their arms and legs working? Seems like a very odd statement.
Girls aren't as brave. Or stupid.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

91 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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alangla said:
On a 737, there's usually big arrows down the wing towards the flaps at the back. The flaps are meant to be extended to allow you to slide down to the ground. In this case, it seems the engines were stopped before the flaps extended & when the hydraulic pumps stopped the flaps were stuck.
requiring the pilots to make alterations to the configuration of the aircraft to facilitate make possible the emergency exit procedure seems an optomistic definition of emergency?

Oakey

27,970 posts

240 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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I suppose you better hope they've turned the engines off as well

"No, don't jump off that side!"

Suuuuuck <Wood chipper sounds>

Flooble

5,747 posts

124 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Teddy Lop said:
requiring the pilots to make alterations to the configuration of the aircraft to facilitate make possible the emergency exit procedure seems an optomistic definition of emergency?
It's limited scenarios though.

  • Water landing - you are jumping into water (and not from a great height) so no issue.
  • Proper crash landing - it's optimistic to imagine the wings are still attached in the first place. More so the landing gear.
  • Just landed but need to evacuate quickly - flaps will already be down from the landing
Hence it was only that they were in the take-off roll and somehow lost all power immediately (?!) that caused the issue.

98elise

31,553 posts

185 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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You would think a couple of people would work together and lower less able people from the wing

essayer

10,366 posts

218 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Flooble said:
Hence it was only that they were in the take-off roll and somehow lost all power immediately (?!) that caused the issue.
The crew did exactly what the evac checklist requires: They selected flaps 5 (full), then immediately cut the engines

but it takes ~20s for the flaps to fully extend, and without engines running the flaps don't have power



leef44

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5,157 posts

177 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Eric Mc said:
I genuinely thought I was imparting some information to the OP. Sorry if that offended people.
Yes your post was valid, thank you. It just seems that some people seem offended every time you post.