2nd national lockdown - furlough?

[AudiMan9000]

How will a 2nd national lockdown work without a furlough scheme this time?

[MG CHRIS]

AudiMan9000 said:

How will a 2nd national lockdown work without a furlough scheme this time?

it wont end thread.

[Welshbeef]

We cannot have indefinite furlough we will be broke

[Jamescrs]

I don't see another national lock down, I can see a closure of pubs, restaurants and other leisure facilities including cinemas and gyms but no blanket lock down again. Also I think it will be short term with no change to Furlough as it currently stands

[Jamescrs]

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[Blib]

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[mike74]

anonymous said:

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Well to start with China isn't run by socialists, unlike the UK.

[anonymous-user]

Read
"How do you fill your retirement" thread.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

If the Gov want to give me £1k a month basic universal income I'll happily walk into retirement (52 now) and let some other poor shmuck have my job

Cheaper than furlough

[Welshbeef]

Jamescrs said:

I don't see another national lock down, I can see a closure of pubs, restaurants and other leisure facilities including cinemas and gyms but no blanket lock down again. Also I think it will be short term with no change to Furlough as it currently stands

So the millions who work in those sectors and then the sectors which would be impacted by millions fewer having cash to buy their product.

[Jamescrs]

Welshbeef said:

So the millions who work in those sectors and then the sectors which would be impacted by millions fewer having cash to buy their product.

And the alternative in your view is?

[mike74]

The majority of those people and sectors still being impacted by corona and still requiring furlough appear to be predominantly low paid, unskilled workers in the retail, service and hospitality sector.

For around two decades now we've supposedly required hundreds of thousands of immigrants per year to supposedly fill hundreds of thousands of job vacancies in those very same sectors.

Surely if we're looking at hundreds of thousands of low paid service sector workers having to remain on furlough or worse still lose their jobs, then maybe, just maybe... we no longer need hundreds of thousands of unskilled immigrants each year going forward?

[mike74]

anonymous said:

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If that was in response to my post, I wasn't making a point over whether foreign nationals should/shouldn't or are/are not entitled to furlough.

More the point is why do now continue to need hundreds of thousands of unskilled immigrants to fill unskilled, low paid service sector jobs going forward?

[Road2Ruin]

anonymous said:

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No. They work here on PAYE, they get furlough.
Why on earth would you think otherwise?

[valiant]

Furlough ends on the 31st October.

We’ll have our two week ‘circuit breaker’ lockdown before that ends.

[pghstochaj]

Jamescrs said:

No it wasn't, all but non essential shops closed all but non essential businesses closed, I don't envisage that happening this time, I believe the direction will be to still go to work in a "covid safe" environment.

I believe any further lock down will be more targeted at specific places and industries.

Who told non essential businesses to close? Is this misunderstanding why the furlough bill is so high?

[dingg]

https://youtu.be/mdkaq3S7nH0

Nigel says NO

[Lozw86]

There was no mandate for non essential businesses to close. There was a guideline asserting that those that could work from home should do so

Businesses that required site attendance to operate were permitted to.

I.e those requiring access to equipment or facilities necessary for business continuity

[V8 Stang]

pghstochaj said:

Who told non essential businesses to close? Is this misunderstanding why the furlough bill is so high?

Exactly, these businesses that closed for no reason should never have been allowed furlough money.

It should have just been for those told to stop trading.


I never stopped going to work, and am far from an essential business!

[Terminator X]

AudiMan9000 said:

How will a 2nd national lockdown work without a furlough scheme this time?

Lock the North down as that seems to be the problem. Why oh why do a national lockdown when we don't have a national problem ... simplicity for the Govt is all I can think of.

TX.

[edc]

V8 Stang said:

pghstochaj said:

Who told non essential businesses to close? Is this misunderstanding why the furlough bill is so high?

Exactly, these businesses that closed for no reason should never have been allowed furlough money.

It should have just been for those told to stop trading.


I never stopped going to work, and am far from an essential business!

If there was money to be made and it was safe to do so why would businesses close? For many industries they may not have been told to stop trading but if there are no customers you have to do something.