Where can I get cable label tags like these?

[TSS]

A bit of a longshot, but has anybody ever seen wiring labels like these and know where to get them?

They’re off a 1957 Lamborghini I’m restoring and I’m hoping to find something similar. They show the DIN 72552 terminal designations for the wires. For example this one is 56b which means it’s for a low beam headlight wire.

They’re aluminium with the lettering printed on, but anything similar looking would be good.

Thanks,

TSS

[tapkaJohnD]

How many do you need?

There seems to be a Chinese industry that makes small metal labels to sew into clothing. See: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=metal+label&...

No doubt they could make hundreds for you.


But if you want less, cutting them out of thin aluminium sheet should be possible. Easiest, if you can make a punch, say from some square steel tube. Otherwise, a fret saw, cold chisel and file could make a few, but at great labour!
JOhn

[GreenV8S]

Laser etching and cutting machines are much less expensive than they used to be. You may be able to find a local hobbyist or fab company who could etch and cut to your design.

[TSS]

I need quite a few, all with different numbers on them. But that punch idea could work if I made a punch to the right size. It's very thin aluminium so should punch cut easily. I could maybe just get a massive sheet of them laser etched and then punch them out myself. Thanks for the ideas guys.

[nsa]

There is also a process called photo etching that is used to make metal parts for models that might be worth looking into.

I think your best guess is to have it done by laser though and they can also burn the labels into the clips. I bet you could sell them to other Lamborghini owners.

[Evoluzione]

You can't laser cut aluminium so you'll need to find a water jet cutting service.

[TSS]

Evoluzione said:

You can't laser cut aluminium so you'll need to find a water jet cutting service.

Are you sure? I'm no expert at all, but there seem to be a lot of companies saying they laser cut aluminium if you Google it.

[GreenV8S]

Evoluzione said:

You can't laser cut aluminium

It has its challenges, but there are companies that do it.

[x 7usc]

I can't help with the tags but want to congratulate you on your attention to detail and originality, i like this sort of thing

[TSS]

x 7usc said:

I can't help with the tags but want to congratulate you on your attention to detail and originality, i like this sort of thing

Thanks! These little things are the difference between an average good restoration and a good restoration. My pedantry tends to drive suppliers mad though!

ALL the original wiring is plain black and just says “Pirelli – Milano” on it. It’s quite cool but does make some sort of labelling essential. I don’t fancy my chances of finding NOS 1950’s Pirelli wiring for sale anywhere and I trying to reuse 63 year old wiring probably won’t go well. So I’m aiming to just use modern black wiring with correct vintage style labels.

[x 7usc]

Sounds great, id be doing exactly the same, Pirelli are still making cable to this day, although now under the name Prysmian. it would be good if you could get the alternative you need still in Pirelli brand, although not identical it would at least be almost the same as factory spec

[GreenV8S]

I'm sure that getting it printed professionally would be prohibitively expensive. Have you considered looking for a DIY cable printing solution? It looks as if the text is fixed and pretty simple so it might only need an embossing wheel with a little dye.

[ReverendCounter]

This would be pretty easy and straightforward to accomplish.

First of all you need to figure out what the approximate dimensions are of a single tag - just the approx area rather than full dimensions.

Then list the digits to go in each tag and figure out how many you need, like how many can you fit in a certain area like A4 or A3?

Find a friendly laser cutting outfit who can cut aluminium, show them the tag, show them the layout and the quantity needed - don't tell them its for a lambo!!

They'll give you a quote based on drawing up the outline of the tag, duplicating it, and arranging them with numbers in each tag so you get an efficient use of the aluminium sheet that they'll probably have lying around.

They'll etch the number into the tag before cutting the shape out.

This might be something PHer Matt Knot might be able to help with. FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T TELL HIM ITS FOR A LABMO!!

Incidentally you could get the numbers inkjet printed on an industrial printer before cutting. You should also look for signmaking outfits as well as laser cutting. If memory serves the type of laser that can cut aluminium is a fibre laser (could be wrong).

Edited by ReverendCounter on Sunday 27th September 17:05

Edited by ReverendCounter on Sunday 27th September 17:07

[Penelope Stopit]

TSS said:

So I’m aiming to just use modern black wiring with correct vintage style labels.

Using Black thin-wall cable may make life easier when building the loom, it's lighter and thinner, fits through holes other cables won't fit through

https://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/70/...

[TSS]

Thank you very much everybody for all the input and ideas, I really appreciate it.

I’ve found a company locally who reckon they can produce the tags at a reasonable cost. It’ll be done pretty much in the way ReverendCounter suggested above. I’ve enlisted my brother to do the designing as he has the software skills. Then I can just email them a file with an A4 sheet of tags - that’s the plan anyway.

Now I just need to figure out which tags I need for which wires as rather a lot of the original tags were missing…

[Tony1963]

1957? Is it a tractor?

[TSS]

Tony1963 said:

1957? Is it a tractor?

Yes it is – It’s a very early, very rare Lambo with a Lambo 2 cylinder engine. Lamborghini only started using their own engines in 1954 (previously they’d bought in engines from other manufacturers) and in 1957 they were still only producing small numbers of tractors. So this is proper piece of Lamborghini history!

Most Lamborghinis of this age rotted away in Italian hedges many years ago. Or if they are still running, they’ve been butchered about with non-original parts over the years just to keep them going. I was lucky to find this one with almost every original part still on it. I’ve even got its original starting handle (try finding another one of those!) and its original logbook. So I feel it’s really worth doing a proper restoration on it. I’ve had the engine professionally rebuilt and now I’m sorting out a multitude of small things before it goes for paint.

[dudleybloke]

Pics!

[TSS]

dudleybloke said:

Pics!

Most of the photos I’ve got are quite boring; either cataloguing of parts or just to help remember how bits fit together. But I’ve found a few that might be interesting.

Looking sorry for itself in Italy



Stripping down the engine. That’s quite a serious camshaft.


Engine rebuild time



Rebuilding the brakes (after it took about a week to get the rear wheels off as they were rather badly corroded on!)


Back together and back home ready for me to start taking it apart again!


After 32 years of evolution Lamborghini had developed some much faster tractors...