Rover 600
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Johnspex

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4,946 posts

206 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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I don't recall seeing much on here regarding Rover 600. Or more specifically the 620 Turbo.
I loved mine apart from the glow-worm headlights and the front tyre wear.
It was such a smart looking car without all the huge swoops and curves etc that designers think is the thing to do these days. I always thought it looked like a smaller Vauxhall Omega.

Not regarded as a Yesterday Hero?

underwhelmist

1,985 posts

156 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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I never owned one but drove several company 620s, I liked them. As you say they were well proportioned and a nice drive.


TriumphStag3.0V8

5,038 posts

103 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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Shared platform with the Honda Accord - so a very good car.
I had a 618 - it was my first decent / expensive car, drove lovely, really liked that car. The only reason I got rid of it was because I moved on to an XJ6.

Very rare sight on the road now - but due to the Honda connection I think they are seen in a similar vein to the Triumph Acclaim - as in not a "proper" Rover (Triumph obvs in the case of the Acclaim). Even though things like the 400/45 is shared with the Civic, they are seen more as Rovers.
I will always have a soft spot for the 600.

9xxNick

1,128 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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I drove a 620 Turbo in the mid noughties for a few hundred miles and thought it a decently competent car. I also had a 620i as a company car which was OK in a fairly bland and unsporting way, and certainly reliable enough.

I suppose they just don't stand out for any particular reason and therefore get forgotten.

Turbobanana

7,775 posts

223 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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I think you'll find it has the wrong shape badge to be popular on here. Normally PH-ers only go for saloon cars with badges based on circles, not inverted, rounded triangles.

FWIW I drove a couple of 2.0 litre ones as part exchanges many years ago and thought they were rather good - a turbo must have been great fun.

a8hex

5,832 posts

245 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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LadyB8 had an Accord back in 94 which we thoroughly enjoyed. It was a company car and when the lease was up my father wanted it and they offered us a sensible price. He had it for years.We were expecting to replace it with another but found that the updated version seemed to have been given a retune my the marketing dept. So instead of changing anything meaningful they just changed the profile of the throttle response so in place it the previous nice linear behaviour it gave you most of the action in the first part of the peddle travel and then had no more to give you over the rest. I guess it makes the car seem quicker on a short test drive but spoilt things for us.
Never drove the turbo version, which was a Rover engine.

Mr MXT

7,774 posts

305 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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I had a 620Ti for a while - had the boost wound up with a bleed valve. It was properly quick in a straight line, but lacked somewhat in the braking and handling departments!

Dapster

8,667 posts

202 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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I worked for Rover in the mid 90's and drove many of these. The 620Ti was a great car, because as it had just the right amount of tinsel - good looking alloys, sensibly lowered, lovely part leather Recaro interior - Rover were on form then before everything became so hideously frumpy and Hyacinth Bouquet a few years later. The driving experience was a bit one dimensional as with all the Rover 2.0T cars - the 4/6/800 and the Tomcat Coupe - blistering straight line speed but a bit "wey-hey!!" in the corners. On any uneven or even slightly damp back road, the steering wheel only had a bit part to play in which direction you went under acceleration. Still, very handsome and more special than a Mondeo or Cav of the day.

Try finding a good Ti now though - there is a non runner on eBay for £750, and that's it.

Richard-390a0

3,205 posts

113 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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I too had a 620ti back in the day. BRG with half leather interiour. Great fun as it looks like such a sleeper. Only issue I had was the camcover gasket leaking down on the turbo lol

Johnspex

Original Poster:

4,946 posts

206 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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Did any of you find the headlights to be absolutely useless?

Zener

19,295 posts

243 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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So long as these were Honda powered they was a decent car thanks to Honda .... but the Rover T series engine was a dog in comparison scratchchin

Riley Blue

22,831 posts

248 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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Turbobanana said:
I think you'll find it has the wrong shape badge to be popular on here. Normally PH-ers only go for saloon cars with badges based on circles, not inverted, rounded triangles.
The Rover 75 has been well regarded here hasn't it?

aust240378

135 posts

81 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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I had a 620ti as my first 'fast' car. It was fairly cheap to insure and a bit of a Q car.

My memories of it were surprising quite a few cars with it's acceleration (would out drag a E30 328i) if you could keep the thing in straight line smile

Appalling torque steer, chocolate gearboxes and the drivers window fell down and needed two hands to push back up while I was paying at the Dartford tunnel which was fun smile

Good times though!

Lotobear

8,553 posts

150 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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Riley Blue said:
The Rover 75 has been well regarded here hasn't it?
A good car but so wrong from the outset IMO with it's warm beer and village cricket aesthetic right down to oval dials with tobacco pipe staining. Exactly what Rover did not need at the time but what BMW management probably thought was quintissentially British styling. Really misjudged the mood I thought, but gained a following with retired farmers and Alan Partridge types

Dapster

8,667 posts

202 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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Zener said:
So long as these were Honda powered they was a decent car thanks to Honda .... but the Rover T series engine was a dog in comparison scratchchin
Nowt wrong with the engine - it just overpowered the chassis.

DKL

4,836 posts

244 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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I had a 620ti from new in about 98. I could get cars on the employees scheme through family so having had a metro gta as a lad I went in for a 200vi. I then realised that the discounts were much larger on the 600 and 800 than the 200. The TI cost me only fractionally more than the vi.
I though 200bhp was mental. I'm not sure what my younger self would make of the e55 at nearly 500!
It took us up and down the motoway to and from Scotland for a few years, a nice car to drive like that. Generally I have pretty good memories of it.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

212 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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Zener said:
So long as these were Honda powered they was a decent car thanks to Honda .... but the Rover T series engine was a dog in comparison scratchchin
The Turbo was a Rover engine. And a very good one.

Lotobear

8,553 posts

150 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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300bhp/ton said:
The Turbo was a Rover engine. And a very good one.
.....it was essentially the old O series with a TC head ISTR?

2xChevrons

4,170 posts

102 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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Lotobear said:
300bhp/ton said:
The Turbo was a Rover engine. And a very good one.
.....it was essentially the old O series with a TC head ISTR?
The original M-Series in the first Rover 800s was, to over-simplify, an O-Series with a twin-cam head. The T-Series used basically the same head and had the same basic internal dimensions (bore, stroke, bore centres, bearing positions etc.) but had an entirely new block and crankshaft so - dimensions aside - it had nothing physically in common with the O-Series and not much direct compatibility with the M-Series. However the 89mm/3.5in stroke which originated on the 1200cc A40 engine back in 1947 remained a constant through the B-, O-, L-, M- and T-Series designs, with only the bore and bore spacing being changed.

It's easy to make too much of this sort of thing. Loads of car companies turn out 'new' engines the development of which can be correctly-but-a-bit-unfairly summed up as 'the old engine with a different head' or 'the old head on a new block'.


Lotobear

8,553 posts

150 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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2xChevrons said:
The original M-Series in the first Rover 800s was, to over-simplify, an O-Series with a twin-cam head. The T-Series used basically the same head and had the same basic internal dimensions (bore, stroke, bore centres, bearing positions etc.) but had an entirely new block and crankshaft so - dimensions aside - it had nothing physically in common with the O-Series and not much direct compatibility with the M-Series. However the 89mm/3.5in stroke which originated on the 1200cc A40 engine back in 1947 remained a constant through the B-, O-, L-, M- and T-Series designs, with only the bore and bore spacing being changed.

It's easy to make too much of this sort of thing. Loads of car companies turn out 'new' engines the development of which can be correctly-but-a-bit-unfairly summed up as 'the old engine with a different head' or 'the old head on a new block'.
So a bit of a case of Hillman Imp engine = Coventry Climax then!