Going away while off sick
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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Taita

7,994 posts

232 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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I'd just go. a) who the hell will know. b) do you follow EVERY mindless rule wink

Enjoy smile

Ham_and_Jam

3,656 posts

126 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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anonymous said:
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I would look at this not so much from the legalities, but more how it is perceived by your employers.

Simply put, are you happy disclosing to them your intentions of convalescing in your holiday home by the sea. How do think they will respond, and what will there overriding impression of you be?

Some employers will be more than happy with the situation, others not so. I’m sure you’ll know which type of employer you work for. I would definitely base my decision on that principle, but that’s me.


928

221 posts

206 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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Ham_and_Jam said:
I would look at this not so much from the legalities, but more how it is perceived by your employers.
If they're only paying SSP then seaside it is, else as above.

EarlofDrift

4,721 posts

137 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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Unless your employer or head of HR is going to camp outside your house for a week then go away for a bit. If they call round and your not in say you were away to the supermarket.

If you're not in work then your not under their control.

GT03ROB

14,019 posts

250 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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Don't see the problem. If you are convalasing at a property you own, can't see anybody having a problem. Probably best not to post the photos of you windsurfing on facebook though.

Richtea1970

1,853 posts

89 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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What’s the problem? Your employer can’t tell you where to stay, sick or not.
If you’re signed off for a month what difference does it make to them where you are?

vaud

59,183 posts

184 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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People used to go to a convalescing hospital to continue their recovery.

If for a moment I thought my employer would have any issue with me, having been signed off, recovered in a house by the sea then I would be looking for a new job.

I don't even think that having been signed off ahead of time that your employer can contact you for anything work related (I know we are really careful)

Countdown

49,208 posts

225 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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I'm going to play devil's advocate here and neither of these scenarios is aimed at the OP, they're just examples of why Managers might take certain viewpoints;

Employee 1
Hard working, always on time, often stays behind to get work finished, has had one day off sick in the last 5 years, never complains when asked to carry out extra work

Employee 2
Does the bare minimum required to avoid being sacked, late at least once a week, always finishes bang on time after spending the last 10 minutes of each day moving pencils around his desk, lots of medical appointments which require a half-day off, one sick day a month usually on a Monday, whinges all the time about work and how carp management are, mentions how things would fall to pieces if he wasn't around

Both of the above should be treated in exactly the same way but you can see why the Employer might be a bit cynical of Employee 2 and wonder if this is just his way of getting a long paid holiday.

Just to reiterate those are extreme examples and Im playing Devil's Advocate... biggrin

Fastchas

2,831 posts

150 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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I attended Monday morning management meetings for HMPS, and when one person bemoaned a member of staff for being somewhere else whilst signed off, the Governor replied 'I don't care, he's off with stress & depression. Who says he has to lie down in a dark room whilst he's off?'
I would say the planned operation/procedure entitles you to be where you want to. It's hardly a sickness, is it?

bitchstewie

67,207 posts

239 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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I'm just wondering how they would know let alone care?

As I type this it occurs to me that I could have been quite literally anywhere on earth (ok, almost) for the past six months and I've been working let alone signed off sick.

I do take the point about perception but if we're going down that route I'd be more concerned how it looks having two homes to choose from than it does which one you're off sick in biggrin

PF62

4,065 posts

202 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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anonymous said:
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Isn't the ACAS website talking about holiday pay vs sick pay, and not going away on holiday itself. Anyway - https://www.sherrardslaw.com/going-holiday-whilst-...

vaud

59,183 posts

184 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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anonymous said:
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Where on the ACAS site?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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vaud said:
Where on the ACAS site?
my understanding is when a doctor signs you off work you can pretty much do anything, in reason, like go on holiday to recover etc., if you did your back in you wouldn't go skiing. What the OP is doing is not unreasonable.

vaud

59,183 posts

184 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
vaud said:
Where on the ACAS site?
my understanding is when a doctor signs you off work you can pretty much do anything, in reason, like go on holiday to recover etc., if you did your back in you wouldn't go skiing. What the OP is doing is not unreasonable.
I agree. Employers have no right to inspect once you are signed off?

thebraketester

15,750 posts

167 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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Taita said:
I'd just go. a) who the hell will know.

Enjoy smile
We will..... laugh

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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i think things like don't post on FB, tell everyone at work, even though you are fully entitled, is just more hassle than its worth.

Flooble

5,755 posts

129 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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Simple question - what would the reaction be if the operation required a specialist hospital that was 200 miles from home you therefore had to stay in a hotel "on holiday" while you recuperated (e.g. needing to remain near the specialist for follow up care).

I don't see any difference.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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If you are signed you are signed off.

Clearly if you’ve lied to get a Drs note and the Dr has given a note then stripping your roof whilst claiming back pain would be pretty daft.


98elise

32,478 posts

190 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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I really can't see the issue. It's your property and your company don't get to decide where you live.