Checking V12VS sport shift clutch wear
Discussion
Info appreciated...
Looking around at V12VS examples (2015 onwards) with sport shift. I understand that they all came with the dual clutch setup.
There’s an interesting one at a MD I enquired about. I understood that it was possible to read the clutch wear on sport shift Vantages, but the dealer checked and said this is not possible on double clutch cars.
Are people finding that the double clutches last longer than single clutch examples?
Typical “length of piece of strong” question; how many miles is normal for a double clutch example not hooned on a track (hopefully!)?
Looking around at V12VS examples (2015 onwards) with sport shift. I understand that they all came with the dual clutch setup.
There’s an interesting one at a MD I enquired about. I understood that it was possible to read the clutch wear on sport shift Vantages, but the dealer checked and said this is not possible on double clutch cars.
Are people finding that the double clutches last longer than single clutch examples?
Typical “length of piece of strong” question; how many miles is normal for a double clutch example not hooned on a track (hopefully!)?
Comments on here indicate a single plate clutch life to be 15,000 to 85,000 miles.
Presumably with double the friction plate surface area, maybe the figures can also be doubled.
As you say, piece of string, because some owners have to reverse up a slope into their garage, although would clutch wear in those circumstances only apply to a manual gearchange?
Thanks Jon and Likeomg
Am I wrong in thinking all V12VS models had the dual plate clutch? It’s an AMR upgrade option for V8V models but wasn’t offered for V12VS models. I thought this is because it was standard. Perhaps not?
The carbon brakes are a land mine area potentially, I agree. I’ve read about them on Astons over the years and realise they are quite pricey to replace. I know some things previously discussed include:
- Asking dealers to remove, kiln dry and then weight the discs to assess wear (seams unrealistic for non-specialist and non-tracked cars)
- Variability of Aston/MD contributions if they need replacement within a year of original purchase. I think the situation should be clarified in writing prior to purchase, if possible.
- Converting to a steel setup (I’d have been more than happy with steel, but they come with carbon, so gotta lump it, IMHO)
Am I wrong in thinking all V12VS models had the dual plate clutch? It’s an AMR upgrade option for V8V models but wasn’t offered for V12VS models. I thought this is because it was standard. Perhaps not?
The carbon brakes are a land mine area potentially, I agree. I’ve read about them on Astons over the years and realise they are quite pricey to replace. I know some things previously discussed include:
- Asking dealers to remove, kiln dry and then weight the discs to assess wear (seams unrealistic for non-specialist and non-tracked cars)
- Variability of Aston/MD contributions if they need replacement within a year of original purchase. I think the situation should be clarified in writing prior to purchase, if possible.
- Converting to a steel setup (I’d have been more than happy with steel, but they come with carbon, so gotta lump it, IMHO)
LOL! Good memory...
Yep - and actually good fun in a weird way! We did the NC500 straight after collecting it. Amazing roads for an Aston, especially the West coast above Ben Nevis.
I’ll challenge you all to a race. Just try an get past me
Looking forward to touring Scandinavia in it when things settle down.
But it only took a couple of months post-Vantage to start looking seriously again. SWMBO says it was a big ploy on my part to just upgrade to a V12. I couldn’t possibly comment.
Yep - and actually good fun in a weird way! We did the NC500 straight after collecting it. Amazing roads for an Aston, especially the West coast above Ben Nevis.
I’ll challenge you all to a race. Just try an get past me
Looking forward to touring Scandinavia in it when things settle down.
But it only took a couple of months post-Vantage to start looking seriously again. SWMBO says it was a big ploy on my part to just upgrade to a V12. I couldn’t possibly comment.
Likeomg said:
I thought they where 'single clutch' but they do have two plates?
Yes, one clutch pressure plate but two friction discs, providing a greater area of friction than the V8V single friction disc, so should have a much longer life.
My understanding is that all V12 Vantage models have the twin plate clutch as standard. It continued in that respect from the manual gearbox version of the (all were V12) DB9.
The V8 Vantage was planned to have the same clutch, but that plan changed before production began. A single plate was used and therefore a spacer had to be fitted to every car (until about 2015), because the torque tube (same as DB9) has room for the twin plate.
Edited by Jon39 on Sunday 27th September 17:54
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