"Shirking" from Home

[Countdown]

I know a lot of bosses have this "fear" but I'm surprised he has ANY staff if he does this

I monitor my staff with software that takes screenshots

Edited by Countdown on Tuesday 29th September 13:18

[Algarve]

He's hiring low level support staff in India... what are they going to say/do?

They'll take their handful of rupees and do what they're told.

I can't imagine any UK based employees accepting that (from him or anyone else).

[PorkInsider]

Fixed link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54289152

[bigandclever]

Algarve said:

I can't imagine any UK based employees accepting that (from him or anyone else).

My last 3 contracts (so not employee but 3rd party service provider) have all had the provision for monitoring of systems. I can’t imagine the permies had anything different.

[untakenname]

Smaller companies will likely use more intrusive methods like the screenshots or webcam whilst most large companies will do passive monitoring of employees ie how often they email, when they first login for the day and finish, if they use salesforce or similar then how many tickets etc...

The amount of passive performance data that's generated is quite eye opening when it's compiled from different sources then put into a BI report and shown to the team.....

[ATG]

And all because these pillocks aren't already managing their staff's actual performance. They're fretting that their staff might stop doing their jobs properly, because the managers themselves have never been doing their own jobs properly. Complete pillocks.

[320d is all you need]

bigandclever said:

Algarve said:

I can't imagine any UK based employees accepting that (from him or anyone else).

My last 3 contracts (so not employee but 3rd party service provider) have all had the provision for monitoring of systems. I can’t imagine the permies had anything different.

Usually that is just a generic term, I've never come across any UK company that takes screenshots periodically of your computer.

To me that is a breakdown in trust automatically so I would not be working at a company that did such a thing.

[MOBB]

ATG said:

And all because these pillocks aren't already managing their staff's actual performance. They're fretting that their staff might stop doing their jobs properly, because the managers themselves have never been doing their own jobs properly. Complete pillocks.

Exactly this

[StuTheGrouch]

I have to be quite flexible in my job. Pre-COVID I was traveling all over the place, getting up at silly o'clock on Sunday mornings to catch a flight, working until after midnight etc. Currently, working from home, I am still working hard and delivering everything I did before. Invariably, I work longer than specified in my contract. Occasionally I will start work later or finish earlier if needed, but ultimately the give and take works more in their favour on average.

If my employer started monitoring my every activity then their reward would be losing all level of flexibility. I would stick to 9:00-17:30 every day, no more and no less. Want me to travel overseas? Fine, but it's not to impact my weekend in any way. Need to me to pick up a task at 17:15 and deliver it the next morning at 10:00? No problem, as long as it can be done in 1 hour and 15 minutes.....

[bigandclever]

320d is all you need said:

bigandclever said:

Algarve said:

I can't imagine any UK based employees accepting that (from him or anyone else).

My last 3 contracts (so not employee but 3rd party service provider) have all had the provision for monitoring of systems. I can’t imagine the permies had anything different.

Usually that is just a generic term, I've never come across any UK company that takes screenshots periodically of your computer.

To me that is a breakdown in trust automatically so I would not be working at a company that did such a thing.

Devil’s advocate .. how do you know?

I’ve had 2 clients in the last decade that routinely went as far as key-logging (albeit we were dealing with ‘sensitive systems and data’). I agree it’s a bit Orwellian, but there is no right to privacy in the workplace.