THE ROAD IS LONG........................
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Just thought id post an update on my Jago. I have decided to fly to Gatwick and meet the young lady who i am buying thr Geep from, once paperwork has been exchanged aswell as money we are going to drive the Jago back from Gatwick to Manchester.
I could do with some advice on driving on the motorways and do u think a full tank will get us home ? its a mk2 escort 1.3 ?
Im starting to get very excited now about my hands on the Jago.
Cheers
Dave :D
I could do with some advice on driving on the motorways and do u think a full tank will get us home ? its a mk2 escort 1.3 ?
Im starting to get very excited now about my hands on the Jago.
Cheers
Dave :D
a lot depends on gearing how good the condition of the engine is and how fast you are driving
you will experience the "wall" a phenomenon where the aerodynamics of the geep hit a wall of air and to pass this wall requires a lot of power - this occurs at approx 55-60mph if you want to travel faster than this you will pay heavily in terms of fuel consumption at a guess i'd say somewhere between a tank and a tank and a half if you keep below 60 geeps are far more comfortable to drive below this speed anyway i came back from Newark and was doing 70 - takes a bit of concentration as they are also susceptible to side winds at this speed - probably more so with a soft top if not fitted with an unleaded head and if you cant get lrp or proper leaded [1.16 per litre here] i would advise getting some lead substitute to treat unleaded as on long runs of sustained high revs that is where valve seat recession will occur most whereas short gentle local drives wont cause damage by comparison
i'm told if you deliberately keep temp below 70 degrees centigrade it doesnt occur but i cannot vouch for this - lead substitute is what i'd have in the tank for your journey
i'd probably also plan a non motorway alternative route as 60 on a motorway isnt pleasant especially around my neck of the woods [birmingham] and through much nicer a and b roads a geep is in its element less boring too
i wish you a safe journey feel free to take my tel number with you incase you encounter any unforseen problems
its listed in transmissions or email me and i'll forward it
Dave Technical sec JOC
you will experience the "wall" a phenomenon where the aerodynamics of the geep hit a wall of air and to pass this wall requires a lot of power - this occurs at approx 55-60mph if you want to travel faster than this you will pay heavily in terms of fuel consumption at a guess i'd say somewhere between a tank and a tank and a half if you keep below 60 geeps are far more comfortable to drive below this speed anyway i came back from Newark and was doing 70 - takes a bit of concentration as they are also susceptible to side winds at this speed - probably more so with a soft top if not fitted with an unleaded head and if you cant get lrp or proper leaded [1.16 per litre here] i would advise getting some lead substitute to treat unleaded as on long runs of sustained high revs that is where valve seat recession will occur most whereas short gentle local drives wont cause damage by comparison
i'm told if you deliberately keep temp below 70 degrees centigrade it doesnt occur but i cannot vouch for this - lead substitute is what i'd have in the tank for your journey
i'd probably also plan a non motorway alternative route as 60 on a motorway isnt pleasant especially around my neck of the woods [birmingham] and through much nicer a and b roads a geep is in its element less boring too
i wish you a safe journey feel free to take my tel number with you incase you encounter any unforseen problems
its listed in transmissions or email me and i'll forward it
Dave Technical sec JOC
Hi TFauctions - Dave - Logibear here
The way I would look on is - you do not know for certain what fuel tank is on the GP. It may have been changed - also the sender may not marry. So play safe - fuel up more often - even if you put to much in to get home you will use it consequently running around.
Also why not join the AA or other body.
DRSEG has given you good technical advice but if you look on it in a non-tec. way - expect Sod's Law and do your Boy Scout thing "be prepared" ( for the worst ) - Sounds pessimistic but till you get to know the car - why not!
I agree with drseg re- take the wee pleasant roads - been doing that for the past year with mine.
All the best
Logi
The way I would look on is - you do not know for certain what fuel tank is on the GP. It may have been changed - also the sender may not marry. So play safe - fuel up more often - even if you put to much in to get home you will use it consequently running around.
Also why not join the AA or other body.
DRSEG has given you good technical advice but if you look on it in a non-tec. way - expect Sod's Law and do your Boy Scout thing "be prepared" ( for the worst ) - Sounds pessimistic but till you get to know the car - why not!
I agree with drseg re- take the wee pleasant roads - been doing that for the past year with mine.
All the best
Logi
Cheers Logi, we are planning the trip this weekend, the b roads seems the best bet and the scenery will be nicer.
Id like to thank Dave for the offer of me taking his number with me incase heaven forbid something does happen, i think its gestures like that that make the Jago owners extremly special. I thank you all.
Dave
>> Edited by TFauctions on Monday 27th June 14:17
Id like to thank Dave for the offer of me taking his number with me incase heaven forbid something does happen, i think its gestures like that that make the Jago owners extremly special. I thank you all.
Dave
>> Edited by TFauctions on Monday 27th June 14:17
This may or may not become an issue, but certainly a couple of my Geeps sufferred from carb icing on long runs.
so much cold air comes in that the carb freezes and no longer allows petrol to vaporise.
the symptoms are, you're bumbling along for an hour at 55-60 , just at the "wall" and you notice the engine note change, like it's running on three, then two then it cuts out...
if you stop, the heat from the engine warms the carb and all is fine... ( I only found the ice cos I jumped out quick and got the bonnet up)
things that make it worse and more likely - open flow air filter and crossflow engine (my OHC's never seemed to suffer that much) the solution is to blank off the top half of the grill, so the only air getting in goes through the warm radiator.
hope this helps (if it cuts out half way down, then you might have a clue!)
other than that, watch out for lorries overtaking - they can suck you in a bit - and when they pass, make sure you don't ram them - the lack of "wall" makes you speed up!
also watch out for scuttle shake - a steering wheel wobble that comes in around 50-60 caused by there not being enough stiffness at the top of the column mount...
most geeps I had sufferred to varying degrees.
so much cold air comes in that the carb freezes and no longer allows petrol to vaporise.
the symptoms are, you're bumbling along for an hour at 55-60 , just at the "wall" and you notice the engine note change, like it's running on three, then two then it cuts out...
if you stop, the heat from the engine warms the carb and all is fine... ( I only found the ice cos I jumped out quick and got the bonnet up)
things that make it worse and more likely - open flow air filter and crossflow engine (my OHC's never seemed to suffer that much) the solution is to blank off the top half of the grill, so the only air getting in goes through the warm radiator.
hope this helps (if it cuts out half way down, then you might have a clue!)
other than that, watch out for lorries overtaking - they can suck you in a bit - and when they pass, make sure you don't ram them - the lack of "wall" makes you speed up!
also watch out for scuttle shake - a steering wheel wobble that comes in around 50-60 caused by there not being enough stiffness at the top of the column mount...
most geeps I had sufferred to varying degrees.
I'm not recommending this because it is so dangerous but to save the world's oil resources I've found that slip-streaming lorries at about 2 car lengths distance, you will save 30% on your fuel usage. Tankers are best because you get some view of the road ahead. It is so dangerous that you'd have to cite the war on terror in your defence. Loaded lorries are best because their braking distances are longer, they do accelerate slowly out of roundabouts though.
You ain't seen me, right???
You ain't seen me, right???
each to their own style of driving if you stay with the lorries thats 56mph always quoted as a good mpg and theres the "suction" i did let a few pass me on way to capesthorne and newark wasnt pleasant 60 i found better passing lorries with a bit of full throttle and even hitting 70!! - hit the fuel a bit but felt better to me
much prefer a - b road driving though much nicer and if its a busy single road pull in when you get a queue behind you
better than a 20valve gtirxltqfghijklmn stuck 2 feet from your bumper lol
much prefer a - b road driving though much nicer and if its a busy single road pull in when you get a queue behind you
better than a 20valve gtirxltqfghijklmn stuck 2 feet from your bumper lol
I too found the Newark trip useful from a speed research point of view! Having just put the car back on the road I did the first part of my trip at about 55mph - awful! Skuttle shake and dreadful lorry overtaking combined to make it a miserable experience.
After a while I found that 60-65 was a great cruising speed for the 1600. I was able to keep ahead of most lorries and the 'shakes' had cleared completely. Best of all when I calculated fuel used over the weekend it averaged out at 36mpg - that was over 520 miles. 250 or so of those miles were done with the roof down.
Very pleased with the whole trip and especially with the fact that the Geep copes with far better at speed with the 1600 rather than the 1300 I built it with.
After a while I found that 60-65 was a great cruising speed for the 1600. I was able to keep ahead of most lorries and the 'shakes' had cleared completely. Best of all when I calculated fuel used over the weekend it averaged out at 36mpg - that was over 520 miles. 250 or so of those miles were done with the roof down.
Very pleased with the whole trip and especially with the fact that the Geep copes with far better at speed with the 1600 rather than the 1300 I built it with.
roof down doors off - thats when the geep becomes the best vehicle on the road
all the little faults just fade away
you having a bad day just go for a 20 min ride in the geep makes the world seem a better place - i find it hard to drive my geep without a smile on my face
even after 9 days touring scotland last year i was still loving the experience finishing with a run from 100 miles north of glasgow back home to birmingham at 3am still with roof off i still went for a spin next day just to have a little fun!
all the little faults just fade away
you having a bad day just go for a 20 min ride in the geep makes the world seem a better place - i find it hard to drive my geep without a smile on my face
even after 9 days touring scotland last year i was still loving the experience finishing with a run from 100 miles north of glasgow back home to birmingham at 3am still with roof off i still went for a spin next day just to have a little fun!
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