Ian Botham is now a life peer
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ATG

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23,120 posts

296 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Err ...

Well, he played for Worcestershire when I was in my yoof and was always good entertainment value ... and he's clearly worn out a lot of shoes raising money for charity. It's clear from his work on Sky that he knows a lot about cricket. Does this equip him to be a useful member of the House of Lords? Is he going to be able to speak with authority in debates that don't involve cricket? Might it have been better to enoble an entrepreneur, a scientist, a doctor, somebody who's been an employer, a former police officer, and any other of a myriad of other occupations before picking a sportsman/commentator? Beefy is a very good example of that latter category, and questioning his enoblement is not to criticise him at all. Just seems a rather peculiar decision from our otherwise completely sensible and in no way attention-craving, dunce of a Prime Minister.

GoodCompany

308 posts

87 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Its for services to Shredded Wheat.

L1OFF

3,667 posts

280 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Last time I saw him he as flogging foot bath things on the telly.

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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ATG said:
Err ...

Well, he played for Worcestershire when I was in my yoof and was always good entertainment value ... and he's clearly worn out a lot of shoes raising money for charity. It's clear from his work on Sky that he knows a lot about cricket. Does this equip him to be a useful member of the House of Lords? Is he going to be able to speak with authority in debates that don't involve cricket? Might it have been better to enoble an entrepreneur, a scientist, a doctor, somebody who's been an employer, a former police officer, and any other of a myriad of other occupations before picking a sportsman/commentator? Beefy is a very good example of that latter category, and questioning his enoblement is not to criticise him at all. Just seems a rather peculiar decision from our otherwise completely sensible and in no way attention-craving, dunce of a Prime Minister.
It was for services on supporting Brexit
Therefore alienating him to at least 50% of the public!
A sad way for a sporting ‘hero’ to end up. Widely loathed.

crankedup

25,764 posts

267 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Just think about. who likes cricket and who has great power and influence in The House. There is your answer, old school tie network, it’s all it is and all it has ever been.

pequod

8,997 posts

162 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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D Gower will be miffed and, arguably, would be a better 'fit' in the Upper House!

I'm not sure what subject Lord Beefy will choose for his maiden speech but I hope it will be met with nods of approval from his fellow Peers?

Drinks all round afterwards should be quite well attended! biggrin

Murph7355

40,937 posts

280 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Jimboka said:
It was for services on supporting Brexit
Therefore alienating him to at least 50% of the public!
A sad way for a sporting ‘hero’ to end up. Widely loathed.
Are the first and last lines of your world's sttiest haiku in any way related?

rfisher

5,056 posts

307 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Should be able to speak with authority on cannabis (and other RD) use.

Apparently.

Al Gorithum

4,991 posts

232 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Wife beater IIRC.

vetrof

2,879 posts

197 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Murph7355 said:
Jimboka said:
It was for services on supporting Brexit
Therefore alienating him to at least 50% of the public!
A sad way for a sporting ‘hero’ to end up. Widely loathed.
Are the first and last lines of your world's sttiest haiku in any way related?
What a sad way to live life. 'Agree with me, or I will loathe you.' Pathetic.

bigandclever

14,227 posts

262 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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I’m sure the OP is glad that a newspaper seller whose dad was a KGB spy is also a life peer.

MC Bodge

28,051 posts

199 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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I didn't know what his views on leaving the EU were, but Ian Botham has never been regarded as an intellectual or suitable as a law maker, as far as I am aware.

He was once a team captain on A Question of Sport.

bigandclever

14,227 posts

262 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Prone to Twitter ‘hacks’ too. Don’t google it, you’ll be put off your dinner.

FredericRobinson

4,784 posts

256 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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bigandclever said:
I’m sure the OP is glad that a newspaper seller whose dad was a KGB spy is also a life peer.
Botham's elevation is for services to distraction from the real story

ATG

Original Poster:

23,120 posts

296 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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bigandclever said:
I’m sure the OP is glad that a newspaper seller whose dad was a KGB spy is also a life peer.
I'd missed that one! George Osborne's former boss gets a gong. Fancy that! Debatable choice. Lebedev Junior seems like a pretty good bloke, but does he stand out amongst other potential peers?

Derek Smith

48,946 posts

272 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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All titles are tinsel.

He attacked Chris Packham, demanding that he be sacked from the BBC for telling the truth. That was nasty.

Ironically, he's a leaver who has left. He lives out in Spain I believe.

BritishBlitz87

742 posts

72 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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My unpopular opinion is that life peers should be abolished and replaced with extra hereditary peers, bishops etc. Maybe we could even add some trade unionists, professional associations and even a mullah or two as a concession to the changing nature of the country. Life peerages are a joke, its basically glorified ballot stuffing as the party in power appoints as many cronies as possible on the thinnest of justifications.

The whole point of the House of Lords is to represent the vested interests of the country and the old "Establishment", making it more democratic defeats the point. It's supposed moderate the democratic will of the people to prevent idiots like Boris/Corbyn from doing too much irreparable damage to the country, but as it stands it's been emasculated to the point that it might as well not exist at all.

TwigtheWonderkid

48,107 posts

174 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Jimboka said:
It was for services on supporting Brexit
Therefore alienating him to at least 50% of the public!
A sad way for a sporting ‘hero’ to end up. Widely loathed.
This.

He's not very bright, thinks England is an Island!!

Genuine Barn Find

5,867 posts

239 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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He owns/part owns a vineyard in Argentina too. Botham Series Malbec.

Pesty

42,655 posts

280 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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Al Gorithum said:
Wife beater IIRC.
You got anything to back that up?