Dobbing in footage - everyone ok about it?
Dobbing in footage - everyone ok about it?
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saaby93

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32,038 posts

202 months

Monday 5th October 2020
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The second police service in a few days asking for footage to be run past civilian workers.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-hampshire...

thebraketester

15,563 posts

162 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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No.

jjwilde

1,904 posts

120 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Why might someone not be ok with it?

eldar

24,915 posts

220 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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jjwilde said:
Why might someone not be ok with it?
Encourage false plates. Police replaced by cameras up a whole level.

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

197 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Depends.

The guy doing 108 in a 30, needed to be caught, if that's through dash cams then so be it.

Handbags because you failed to merge in turn, not so much.

Grrbang

755 posts

95 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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I don’t see the problem with this.

Speed cameras automatically dish out points for marginal speeds and innocent mistakes, whereas this has to be judged as bad driving by three people: the dash cam owner, the civilian processor, and the police.

Sump

5,510 posts

191 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Encourages hurt feelings

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Police state using the citizens as there informers.

BoggoStump

317 posts

73 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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No issue with it, if i had a dashcam id of reported plenty of idiots.

A bike undertaking me on a double line road. (i could hear him coming and expected him to overtake on the right but no he shot by on the left handside. Luckily I didnt move left to let him by on the right.)

A car overtaking me approaching a blind bend on double white lines.

Soooo many tailgaters (dont know if you can report them though)

And alot more, mainly idiots overtaking when traffic is approaching opposite side. Or people overtaking opposite traffic and causing me to brake.

The only worry is, petty mistakes that people make and being reported for it. I dont drive any near as i used to (safely) as i dont want to end up being reported myself.

I have no dashcam but everytime i see something worthy of reporting feel like i should get one.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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If I thought it was only going to be used in the most egregious cases, but it won't.

A1VDY

3,575 posts

151 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Sump said:
Encourages hurt feelings
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This
Especially if dobbing in mates or family. Could cause all sorts of hurt feelings and blubbing..

JulianHJ

8,861 posts

286 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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Quite happy with it. Just yesterday someone posted a video on Reddit of some clown driving the wrong way up the A23. A 140 MPH closing speed, thankfully the poster was able to brake and swerve out of the way.

PH regularly sees posters complaining of poor standards of driving - if dashcams can help catch those driving dangerously, that’s a positive result in my opinion.

Riley Blue

22,997 posts

250 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
Police state using the citizens as there informers.
The police have always asked the public for information; crime solving would be impossible without it.


Ian Geary

5,397 posts

216 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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I don't have a problem with it.

There is no question of the police being replaced, or the current legal powers of the police being extended. To suggest so is nonsense.

This is simply increasing the chance that those unable to make safe decisions when driving face some consequence for it. How can that possibly be a bad thing?

The rules about driving are made perfectly clear as part of the process of getting a license.

The issue about increasing the use of cloned plates is potentially valid. But not enforcing laws because people might try and hide from detection is a thin reed to cling to imho.

The bigger issue I see is the police being swamped by submissions because "someone overtook me" ( regardless of it being within the limit), "someone looked at me funny", or "they always park their van on the pavement".


Ian

saaby93

Original Poster:

32,038 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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What aboutery

What about where someone makes a mistake - no harm done?
eg turning into the wrong end of a one way street - oops embarrassed look
add to list

Should everything we do be monitored?
Try running it past the folks in east germany

FA57 VWT

1,965 posts

67 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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I’ve had a dash cam for about 5 years, but only ever had two incidents of note, both fairly recently and both reported to Dorset’s version of Operation Snap. One idiot drove at speed through a pedestrian crossing as a mother and two kids were already a third of the way across and the second was somebody overtaking on double white lines and missing a car coming the other way by what seemed like just a few inches.

The usual ambler gamblers, merge in turn etc just get ignored obviously.

For those who drive like dicks it’s got to be a good thing that so many cars have dash cams now surely?

People running on false plates will always slip through the net.

JulianHJ

8,861 posts

286 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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saaby93 said:
What aboutery

What about where someone makes a mistake - no harm done?
eg turning into the wrong end of a one way street - oops embarrassed look
add to list

Should everything we do be monitored?
Try running it past the folks in east germany
Do you have any examples of when someone has been prosecuted purely on dashcam evidence for a simple mistake where no harm was done? The only examples I can recall involve dangerous driving.

FA57 VWT

1,965 posts

67 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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JulianHJ said:
Do you have any examples of when someone has been prosecuted purely on dashcam evidence for a simple mistake where no harm was done? The only examples I can recall involve dangerous driving.
Exactly this.

Alex_225

7,419 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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If the police are pragmatic about what's submitted and define the difference between a genuine mistake and genuinely terrible, aggressive or deliberate driving then I don't see an issue.

They mention in the video that they take action on 50% of cases. What consists of 'action' I don't know, could be speaking with the driver to convicting I suppose.

I'm sure we've all been in a situation where we've gone, 'If only where was a Police car around to see that'. A balance between catching moronic drivers and not being a nation of whiney b!tchy little grasses would be nice. I'd hope the Police can tell when a situation has been engineered as is often the case with many dashcam compilations we all critique!

heebeegeetee

29,841 posts

272 months

Tuesday 6th October 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
Police state using the citizens as there informers.
But this time with evidence. I don't have a problem with it at all. As others have said though, the system might get bogged down with "he overtook me" type videos.